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Post by mrholmes on Aug 3, 2016 10:59:00 GMT -6
To my taste most of the verbs have depth or width but they very seldom have both, depth and width. Today I was comparing two reverb units one HW one SW with the same settings and I found the same issue, one had more depth the other one more width.
By mistake both sends where active and I was like WOW logical now I have both depth and width.
Did you ever use two reverb machines on one source?
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Post by M57 on Aug 3, 2016 11:14:15 GMT -6
I don't know if this counts because once tracked I stay ITB, but I send most of my tracks to two verbs, usually one with a small room for intimacy and another to a medium/larger room for space.
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Post by jazznoise on Aug 3, 2016 11:26:25 GMT -6
Mixing a mono and stereo reverb can work well, that's as close as I can say to your example. I usually have at least 2 verbs going, not including room mics from the tracking stage.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 3, 2016 12:53:13 GMT -6
I do this too. I set up at least two reverbs. I use my Relab XL480 for basic room verb. Then I add either the UAD EMT -140 or the Poor Plate. The EMT-140 gives me height, the Relab, width. I use the Relab mostly, with just a touch of plate verb. The Poor Plate is wider than the UAD, so it depends on the track which one I use, the UAD or the poor plate.
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Post by drbill on Aug 3, 2016 13:17:00 GMT -6
Did you ever use two reverb machines on one source? All the time. Sometimes 3............or even 4.
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Post by ericn on Aug 3, 2016 13:33:28 GMT -6
I have been stacking verbs and delays for years! It started as a poor mans way of getting the environment I wanted! Then I saw the big boys were doing it as well! I approach it like drum samples you got to do what you have to do to get the sound in your head to the mix, but you have to be careful and make sure don't have phase issues as well as that you are not mixing for the monitoring system.
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Post by Randge on Aug 3, 2016 14:52:23 GMT -6
Yeah, I use small amounts of several to get what I want.
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Post by wiz on Aug 3, 2016 14:55:42 GMT -6
Used to be at least 3... now I have the Bricasti.. most times its two, sometimes one.
When it was 3.
One simulated the tracking space
One was a plate which gave depth
One was a hall which gave height
Most tracks in the mix went through all three in varying amounts..
cheers
Wiz
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Post by schmalzy on Aug 3, 2016 15:21:51 GMT -6
I'm not in the same league as most of you guys, but I find I'm happiest with my reverb sounds when i combine a few.
Also...a little M/S processing on the wider one to emphasize the width has done some good for me, too.
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 3, 2016 15:23:32 GMT -6
Seems there is a lot of space for creative use, as with compressors too. Thanks for all the hints....
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 3, 2016 15:46:22 GMT -6
Oops, I just realized, I use three reverbs. I use the UAD Ocean Way plug as my room sound, then add the Relab medium or large Hall, then a pinch of plate reverb.
Randge, I'm curious which verbs you use. The sound on the last track of yours I heard was great, it was perfectly 3D with the vocal sitting just right.
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Post by henge on Aug 4, 2016 13:15:22 GMT -6
I have 3 or 4 R2's going with one for the drums set to normal width and guitars, keys and some vocals going to a wide version of the preset.
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Post by svart on Aug 4, 2016 21:32:06 GMT -6
All the time. Sometimes I set up short plates for *thickness*, like if I want a snare to sound a little bigger/longer than it really is, and then possibly a room reverb for ambiance, etc.
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