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Post by ericn on Jul 11, 2016 19:18:18 GMT -6
Scott the "truthyness " of this is what has really pissed people off! Many feel their favorite version is the holly grail! The funny part of this is old Sal would have had no problem changing components if it saved a buck! Here is where I see Larry as very much like Sal and less like Paul Wolf who was very much a costodian and tried to elevate API into a highend powerhouse and less of a workmans tool that many of the old timers view API as! Right. They had to change, the old parts aren't available anymore. They also changed the PCB layout to make it tidier and more efficient to manufacture. I get that. It comes down to marketing, and they don't want to steer people away from their product. They say they sound exactly like the vintage ones. Sure they do ! well maybe if they took a red dot dipped it in goo and put an API sticker on it! |
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Post by ericn on Jul 11, 2016 19:20:55 GMT -6
Like I said - ignorant. I don't see how that makes him a jerk or an idiot. Remember, this is supposed to be a kinder, gentler place. Right?  Your right , Ok I looked up synonyms for "idiot" , help me pick a better word , Synonyms = airhead, birdbrain, blockhead, bonehead, bubblehead, chowderhead, chucklehead, clodpoll (or clodpole), clot [British], cluck, clunk, cretin, cuddy (or cuddie) [British dialect], deadhead, dim bulb [slang], dimwit, dip, dodo, dolt, donkey, doofus [slang], dope, dork [slang], dullard, dumbbell, dumbhead, dum-dum, dummkopf, dummy, dunce, dunderhead, fathead, gander, golem, goof, goon, half-wit, hammerhead, hardhead, ignoramus, imbecile, jackass, know-nothing, knucklehead, lamebrain, loggerhead [chiefly dialect], loon, lump, lunkhead, meathead, mome [archaic], moron, mug [chiefly British], mutt, natural, nimrod [slang], nincompoop, ninny, ninnyhammer, nit [chiefly British], nitwit, noddy, noodle, numskull (or numbskull), oaf, pinhead, prat [British], ratbag [chiefly Australian], saphead, schlub (also shlub) [slang], schnook [slang], simpleton, stock, stupe, stupid, thickhead, turkey, woodenhead, yahoo, yo-yo Ok , Larry is a "chowderhead" for not knowing the accurate history of his own company's products . More like a politician, he knows, he's got the rights and I'm sure copies of all of Paul Wolfs Archieves! Plus documentation of any of the changes on his watch! |
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Post by sozocaps on Jul 12, 2016 8:22:37 GMT -6
Yea... the CAPI VP28 has an additional op amp and transformer which makes all the difference... If they just have a variable resistor that's a joke... Not a joke. I'd say it's MUCH more useful than a 512B/C where you are left with having to use the pad or put something else behind the pre. The VP26/25's are essentially the same idea. Attenuation (not atten and boost like the 28) on the output. VERY useful. thanks for the correction! |
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Post by sozocaps on Jul 12, 2016 8:29:01 GMT -6
I have no experience with new API but the Foo Fighters Wasting Light was done on a NEW API and I HATE the sonic's of that album.... My VP28's sound nothing like that.
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Post by kevinnyc on Jul 13, 2016 8:50:31 GMT -6
Like I said - ignorant. I don't see how that makes him a jerk or an idiot. Remember, this is supposed to be a kinder, gentler place. Right? Your right , Ok I looked up synonyms for "idiot" , help me pick a better word , Synonyms = airhead, birdbrain, blockhead, bonehead, bubblehead, chowderhead, chucklehead, clodpoll (or clodpole), clot [British], cluck, clunk, cretin, cuddy (or cuddie) [British dialect], deadhead, dim bulb [slang], dimwit, dip, dodo, dolt, donkey, doofus [slang], dope, dork [slang], dullard, dumbbell, dumbhead, dum-dum, dummkopf, dummy, dunce, dunderhead, fathead, gander, golem, goof, goon, half-wit, hammerhead, hardhead, ignoramus, imbecile, jackass, know-nothing, knucklehead, lamebrain, loggerhead [chiefly dialect], loon, lump, lunkhead, meathead, mome [archaic], moron, mug [chiefly British], mutt, natural, nimrod [slang], nincompoop, ninny, ninnyhammer, nit [chiefly British], nitwit, noddy, noodle, numskull (or numbskull), oaf, pinhead, prat [British], ratbag [chiefly Australian], saphead, schlub (also shlub) [slang], schnook [slang], simpleton, stock, stupe, stupid, thickhead, turkey, woodenhead, yahoo, yo-yo Ok , Larry is a "chowderhead" for not knowing the accurate history of his own company's products . I'm less interested in slagging Larry, who is responding out of defensiveness and pride, and more interested in paying homage to Jeff Steiger. While, if we were talking politics over a beer, might end up in a fistfight, I've never encountered a man more on point in handling his business and customers, and whose audio esthetic more aligned with my own. Every extra penny I squirrel away for gear will end up in Jeff's pocket before APIs. |
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Post by Ward on Jul 13, 2016 9:58:17 GMT -6
Some of you fellers are not very nice. Just saying. Anyone who can out-douche me, is really a jerk. LOL
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Post by rocinante on Jul 13, 2016 10:10:33 GMT -6
Really? The foo fighters did their last album on an api? After picking up that beautiful Neve?? Fool fighters.
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Post by kilroyrock on Jul 13, 2016 10:53:32 GMT -6
Really? The foo fighters did their last album on an api? After picking up that beautiful Neve?? Fool fighters. He bought the console in 2011 I believe. Wasting Light was recorded in 2010. |
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Post by rocinante on Jul 14, 2016 12:35:20 GMT -6
And there you have it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 13:11:32 GMT -6
He also had a Neve 8068 in his huge studio previous to the Sound City board.
Re : the new api stuff.. not really my bag but glad they added the fader to the 512.
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Post by kilroyrock on Jul 15, 2016 7:41:17 GMT -6
This caused me to look it up - he did take some neve modules from the big studio and brought them to his house for the sessions, so he did what any smart person would do - use great gear!
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