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Post by terryrocks on Jun 20, 2016 10:26:55 GMT -6
I've got an empty 1x12" cab that I plan on using as an iso cab outside of my live room.
The amps I use the most are a dripedge bandmaster reverb, 65 ampeg gemini g12, and an ac15.
all are less than 50watts at 8ohms.
what should I stick in there?
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Post by 79sg on Jun 20, 2016 11:42:53 GMT -6
Check out Warehouse Guitar Speakers ET-65, I have a couple in one of my 2 x 12 cabs. Very nice and balanced. I think it could work well for those types of amps.
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Post by mrholmes on Jun 20, 2016 11:46:43 GMT -6
I always thought you cant go wrong with an Vintage 30 by Celestion.
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Post by DaveC on Jun 20, 2016 18:33:50 GMT -6
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Post by Ward on Jun 20, 2016 19:51:03 GMT -6
The Celestion Vintage 30 is quite a good choice, as is the Celestion Gold... but check out the Weber offerings. I have a '64 bandmaster paired with 4 10" alnico Webers... just beautiful. Ted Weber was a good man. Start here: www.tedweber.com/blue12a choose a fairly high wattage is you're using 40 watt RMS or higher amps. Edit: Fixed typos created by autocorrect. Who ever head of Celestial Speakers? OMG... |
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Post by donr on Jun 20, 2016 20:43:54 GMT -6
Lemme tell you my experience with guitar speakers. Coming up, most US amps in the day had Jensens, Utah or CTS or Eminence. British amps had Celestions or Fanes.
When the wattage/volume thing happened, high powerhandling guitar amp speakers from JBL, Altec, Electrovoice evolved and were promoted for sale, and I bought all of them. I remember owning a silverface Fender Twin with 2 Electrovoice EVO 12's that weighed so much it broke the front MDF baffle. At some point up the years, you realized that the non-linearity of the old speakers sounded good, you just needed them not to blow out.
Fast forward to today, you only need to get the tone. You actually don't need the power handling or want the linearity. I'm sure there's many sweet guitar speakers I haven't heard, but my benchmark is the Celestion Vintage 30 or Greenback re-issue. Because it's non-linear.
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Post by stratboy on Jun 21, 2016 4:05:50 GMT -6
Warehouse guitar speakers. I have ET 65 and veteran 30. I like the ET, but I love the veteran. It's like the Celestion vintage 30, which I also have, but not as ice picky in the highs. Creamy.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 21, 2016 4:22:17 GMT -6
Lemme tell you my experience with guitar speakers. Coming up, most US amps in the day had Jensens, Utah or CTS or Eminence. British amps had Celestions or Fanes. When the wattage/volume thing happened, high powerhandling guitar amp speakers from JBL, Altec, Electrovoice evolved and were promoted for sale, and I bought all of them. I remember owning a silverface Fender Twin with 2 Electrovoice EVO 12's that weighed so much it broke the front MDF baffle. At some point up the years, you realized that the non-linearity of the old speakers sounded good, you just needed them not to blow out. Fast forward to today, you only need to get the tone. You actually don't need the power handling or want the linearity. I'm sure there's many sweet guitar speakers I haven't heard, but my benchmark is the Celestion Vintage 30 or Greenback re-issue. Because it's non-linear. Those EV speakers are soooooo heavy. My 79 Mesa has one and it's a bear. |
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Post by Ward on Jun 21, 2016 5:38:10 GMT -6
Lemme tell you my experience with guitar speakers. Coming up, most US amps in the day had Jensens, Utah or CTS or Eminence. British amps had Celestions or Fanes. When the wattage/volume thing happened, high powerhandling guitar amp speakers from JBL, Altec, Electrovoice evolved and were promoted for sale, and I bought all of them. I remember owning a silverface Fender Twin with 2 Electrovoice EVO 12's that weighed so much it broke the front MDF baffle. At some point up the years, you realized that the non-linearity of the old speakers sounded good, you just needed them not to blow out. Fast forward to today, you only need to get the tone. You actually don't need the power handling or want the linearity. I'm sure there's many sweet guitar speakers I haven't heard, but my benchmark is the Celestion Vintage 30 or Greenback re-issue. Because it's non-linear. Those EV speakers are soooooo heavy. My 79 Mesa has one and it's a bear. And, if memory serves me correctly, total overkill to boot! those Boogies are about 100 watts fully cranked but who cranks them? Deaf people? A lot of guys I know pulled two power tubes (back in the day) and threw in a lighter celestial G12K75 speaker to handle the job. |
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Post by Ward on Jun 21, 2016 5:38:56 GMT -6
or was that G12T75... 75 watt lightweight ceramic magnet celestion 12" guitar speaker.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 21, 2016 5:54:11 GMT -6
Those EV speakers are soooooo heavy. My 79 Mesa has one and it's a bear. And, if memory serves me correctly, total overkill to boot! those Boogies are about 100 watts fully cranked but who cranks them? Deaf people? A lot of guys I know pulled two power tubes (back in the day) and threw in a lighter celestial G12K75 speaker to handle the job. My Mark IIa only has 2 tubes! I think it lists at 60 watts though. Either way, no shortage of juice. |
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Post by Ward on Jun 21, 2016 5:58:01 GMT -6
And, if memory serves me correctly, total overkill to boot! those Boogies are about 100 watts fully cranked but who cranks them? Deaf people? A lot of guys I know pulled two power tubes (back in the day) and threw in a lighter celestial G12K75 speaker to handle the job. My Mark IIa only has 2 tubes! I think it lists at 60 watts though. Either way, no shortage of juice. Then you'd be fine swapping out that behemoth for a light weight Celestion. |
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Post by 79sg on Jun 21, 2016 6:05:07 GMT -6
celestion V30's are great with my Mesa Boogie amps, the recommendation of the WGS ET65 was based on the OP's amps the cab will be matched to. The ET65 is essentially a clone of the Celestion G12-65. EV speakers are awesome but weigh as much as a small car  |
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Post by Guitar on Jun 21, 2016 7:09:15 GMT -6
My favorite speaker for my old Fenders is the Eminence Cannabis Rex. Super warm tones, good with clean or distortion. I have mine in a Mojotone 1x12.
I have a 2x12 I also use with a combo of Weber 12F150 and Celestion Vintage 30 and that cab rocks, too, obviously more powerful with twice the drivers.
My british amp has a pair of Warehouse Guitar Speakers Reaper 30s and sounds huge and fat. For a janglier tone I would use the Eminence Red Fang 2x12, sort of an Alnico Blue type of tone.
Hard to go wrong with any of these, depending on the amp and the desired tone.
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Post by donr on Jun 21, 2016 8:11:50 GMT -6
I haven't heard a lot of these speakers, I should get out more.
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Post by svart on Jun 21, 2016 8:25:35 GMT -6
I have V30's or English Greenbacks in all my cabs. Can't go wrong with either.
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Post by swurveman on Jun 21, 2016 8:47:14 GMT -6
Off topic: Other than somebody punching a hole in your speaker(s), is there any reason to have a grille on your speaker cabinet.
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Post by Ward on Jun 21, 2016 9:09:53 GMT -6
Off topic: Other than somebody punching a hole in your speaker(s), is there any reason to have a grille on your speaker cabinet. Long ago I was told: Dust, dirt and moisture protection... although I've always been dubious about that too. After all, the backs of the speakers are still exposed. |
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Post by svart on Jun 21, 2016 9:25:32 GMT -6
Off topic: Other than somebody punching a hole in your speaker(s), is there any reason to have a grille on your speaker cabinet. Yeah, sometimes folks knock mic stands over and it helps keep mics from knocking holes in your cones or punching in your dust caps.. Other than that, unless the grill frame is obstructing the speaker, the grill doesn't do much to the sound. I think it's mainly about protecting the speaker from mechanical damage. |
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Post by swurveman on Jun 21, 2016 9:27:19 GMT -6
Off topic: Other than somebody punching a hole in your speaker(s), is there any reason to have a grille on your speaker cabinet. Long ago I was told: Dust, dirt and moisture protection... although I've always been dubious about that too. After all, the backs of the speakers are still exposed. Thanks. I've got a closed back Marshall 1960 slanted cab. Tired of trying to see through that grille. However, cleaning dust off the speaker or moisture destruction isn't good either. Guess I'll keep it on. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 21, 2016 9:30:31 GMT -6
Long ago I was told: Dust, dirt and moisture protection... although I've always been dubious about that too. After all, the backs of the speakers are still exposed. Thanks. I've got a closed back Marshall 1960 slanted cab. Tired of trying to see through that grille. However, cleaning dust off the speaker or moisture destruction isn't good either. Guess I'll keep it on. Put a flashlight up against the grill when setting the mic. This works like a charm with 95% of grills. |
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