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Post by mdmitch2 on Jun 18, 2016 10:06:12 GMT -6
I didn't see any other threads on this, and it looks like they're shipping now.... $2500 www.manley.com/products/view/manley-nu-muSeems like it could be a cool piece, and a really decent price considering. Only odd thing that jumps out at me is three position input switch. Anyone heard one yet? Manley Nu Mu Features: Hybrid tube/solid-state compressor/limiter Dual channel (stereo linkable) Features Manley's IRON input transformers 4 hand-selected and matched 6BA6 vacuum tubes Balanced XLR I/O HIP circuit elevates softer dynamics without crushing louder ones Lighted VU meters, switchable between Gain Reduction and Output Level Custom, internal, universal high-voltage switched-mode power supply, for worldwide operation www.manley.com/public/uploaded/products/full/56a07f5c538ee.png |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 18, 2016 10:10:28 GMT -6
So, it's like an LA2A and LA3A combined ?
And you can use it as a 2 bus compressor in stereo?
That seems pretty cool if it sounds as good as the UAD and Retro units.
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Post by jin167 on Jun 18, 2016 10:14:12 GMT -6
I thought it was a stripped down version of their vari mu compressor? Input switch is a bit weird.. I guess the user will have to adjust the level going into the compressor.
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Post by drbill on Jun 18, 2016 10:26:58 GMT -6
Input switch is pretty similar, although not as adjustable as it's big brother VariMu. It's all about gain staging, and really more about changing the tone and thickness than level adjusting. Hard to describe unless you've used it. And yes, gain staging from what precedes the unit is critical. Meters look kind of wanky to me, but I will say that the VariMu is TOTALLY killer, and quite possibly my fav compressor. Certainly my fave for mastering duties. But I also love love LOVE it on lead style guitars. I always feel like I need another during mixing. Maybe I'll look at this one more closely.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Jun 18, 2016 11:08:25 GMT -6
I thought it was a stripped down version of their vari mu compressor? Input switch is a bit weird.. I guess the user will have to adjust the level going into the compressor. "Building upon our proud heritage, the Manley Nu Mu merges the esoteric “T-Bar mod” all-tube front end from the legendary Manley Variable Mu® and makes it standard followed by a new high voltage all-discrete solid state audio chain for the smoothest dynamics action coupled to the punchiest sonic path." I read somewhere that it's a little more transparent on the low end compared to the vari mu.... which may increase it's usefulness on a variety of material, but maybe a little less colored overall. Would be cool to hear some audio examples comparing the two on different genres. |
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jul 13, 2024 15:08:08 GMT -6
I just ordered one of these. Any one else using one? I’m pretty excited to see how it does for mastering and drums.
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Post by ironinthepath on Jul 13, 2024 20:06:43 GMT -6
I bought a used Manley Vari Mu for not much more: no regrets. Other than it getting cooking hot in the rack (with extra space), just really really nice to my ears. That being said, the Nu-Mu is not something I’ve heard yet, still enticing.
-Chris
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Post by deaconblues on Jul 14, 2024 8:56:51 GMT -6
I just ordered one of these. Any one else using one? I’m pretty excited to see how it does for mastering and drums. I haven't used it on a drum bus yet, but have used it quite a bit on mix bus for electronic music, and it's really something in a way that's hard to articulate. I got it in a trade for a mostly unused 12-string guitar that smelled funny. I think the Nu Mu has already done a lot more for my music than that guitar ever could  |
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jul 24, 2024 23:53:22 GMT -6
Wired it in today. Lovely. Feels like my ideal bus mix ‘glue’ compressor. Great tone, gain sounds excellent. Highly recommended.
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Post by theshea on Jul 25, 2024 5:54:42 GMT -6
Wired it in today. Lovely. Feels like my ideal bus mix ‘glue’ compressor. Great tone, gain sounds excellent. Highly recommended. i am interested. i don‘t have outboard on my mixbus but since trying neve‘s master bus transformer i got a fantastic taste off it and maybe my next piece could be a mojo comp (neve mbt is out of budget). i sometimes use ik dyna mu plugin on 70‘s mid-slow tunes that need some glue and class. the ik dyn mu gives some witdh and glue. do you know that plugin? could you compare? how is the compression on the manley nu mu? |
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jul 25, 2024 12:41:26 GMT -6
i sometimes use ik dyna mu plugin on 70‘s mid-slow tunes that need some glue and class. the ik dyn mu gives some witdh and glue. do you know that plugin? could you compare? how is the compression on the manley nu mu? I have not used that plugin, or a Manley Vari Mu... From what I gather this is a less 'vibe/saturated' spin on that. Not to say it has NO character- for my purposes it has just enough that it makes it more versatile for more styles. Does what I would consider the 'glue' thing? Not in an SSL VCA way, but just in a nice solid sound image with a bit of weight and 'heft'? I dunno it's all so esoteric trying to describe these things. Haha! I've also only used it for 45 minutes or so in compressor mode, Im sure there are a variety of purposes that would have different sonic fingerprints. The features make it a great buss comp I would say- HPF, can be linked or unlinked, Limit or Comp. Etc. I DO wish it was detented pots, but with a keen eye it's not hard to get matched up for dual mono scenarios. If you are intrigued, definitely read about it on the Manley site, lots of details. Some good reviews online out there too. |
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Post by carymiller on Jul 25, 2024 13:35:00 GMT -6
I didn't see any other threads on this, and it looks like they're shipping now.... $2500 www.manley.com/products/view/manley-nu-muSeems like it could be a cool piece, and a really decent price considering. Only odd thing that jumps out at me is three position input switch. Anyone heard one yet? Manley Nu Mu Features: Hybrid tube/solid-state compressor/limiter Dual channel (stereo linkable) Features Manley's IRON input transformers 4 hand-selected and matched 6BA6 vacuum tubes Balanced XLR I/O HIP circuit elevates softer dynamics without crushing louder ones Lighted VU meters, switchable between Gain Reduction and Output Level Custom, internal, universal high-voltage switched-mode power supply, for worldwide operation www.manley.com/public/uploaded/products/full/56a07f5c538ee.pngI've used one a little bit at the wonderful Miracle Magnet Studios in PHX. It's a cool piece for a relatively inexpensive VARI MU that can do stereo. However, I prefer the IGS Tubecore 3U for a few reasons. IGS TUBECORE 3U FEATURES:
01. Tubecore 3U has easy access to replace the tubes in the rear without having to unrack/rerack the unit. 02. Tubecore 3U has all Elma switched stepped controls for easy recall (The Manley is not totally stepped). 03. Tubecore 3U has MID/SIDE processing on tap. 04. Tubecore 3U has a slightly more flexible Side Chain which is switchable between 60Hz and 120Hz (I would have preferred a 250Hz but whatevs). 05. Tubecore 3U has a Parallel mix knob. MANLEY NU MU STUFFS:
01. Manley Nu Mu has a control called HIIP which supposedly lets some of the Sidechain through, but I don't think the frequency is listed. 02. Monely Nu Mu has more tubes internally, and is closer to a Manley Vari Mu T-Mod. 03. Manely Side Chain frequency point was unlisted...maybe it's in the manual but I didn't see it when I checked? 04. The Input gain control is a three position stepped control that didn't gell with me. My close friend Jane Joyce runs Miracle Magnet out of her home. It's basically a small operation with a ton of great gear... (some of which I helped select) I tested the Tubecore 3U for a client I built a studio for back in 2021 in Tempe so I spent a lot of time with it... Personally I'd go with the IGS Tubecore 3U for a stereo setup, or an IGS Zen (which costs about the same as the Tubecore 3U even though it's solid state) for an Atmos Rig because it's dual mono and has features I would want. Manley is GREAT sounding , but I need stepped controls for recall if it's gonna be my money for my place. YMMV. |
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jul 25, 2024 14:23:36 GMT -6
I didn't see any other threads on this, and it looks like they're shipping now.... $2500 www.manley.com/products/view/manley-nu-muSeems like it could be a cool piece, and a really decent price considering. Only odd thing that jumps out at me is three position input switch. Anyone heard one yet? Manley Nu Mu Features: Hybrid tube/solid-state compressor/limiter Dual channel (stereo linkable) Features Manley's IRON input transformers 4 hand-selected and matched 6BA6 vacuum tubes Balanced XLR I/O HIP circuit elevates softer dynamics without crushing louder ones Lighted VU meters, switchable between Gain Reduction and Output Level Custom, internal, universal high-voltage switched-mode power supply, for worldwide operation www.manley.com/public/uploaded/products/full/56a07f5c538ee.pngI've used one a little bit at the wonderful Miracle Magnet Studios in PHX. It's a cool piece for a relatively inexpensive VARI MU that can do stereo. However, I prefer the IGS Tubecore 3U for a few reasons. MANLEY NU MU STUFFS:
01. Manley Nu Mu has a control called HIP which supposedly lets some of the Sidechain through, but I don't think the frequency is listed. 02. Monely Nu Mu has more tubes internally, and is closer to a Manley Vari Mu T-Mod. 03. Manely Side Chain frequency point was unlisted...maybe it's in the manual but I didn't see it when I checked? 04. The Input gain control is a three position stepped control that didn't gell with me. My close friend Jane Joyce runs Miracle Magnet out of her home. It's basically a small operation with a ton of great gear... (some of which I helped select) I tested the Tubecore 3U for a client I built a studio for back in 2021 in Tempe so I spent a lot of time with it... Personally I'd go with the IGS Tubecore 3U for a stereo setup, or an IGS Zen (which costs about the same as the Tubecore 3U even though it's solid state) for an Atmos Rig because it's dual mono and has features I would want. Manley is GREAT sounding , but I need stepped controls for recall if it's gonna be my money for my place. YMMV. 1. HIP Function is similar to a side chain, impacts lower db level sections of the track, adding nice clarity and compression. 2. Yes this is similar to a T Mod Vari Mu. Sort of. 3. HPF is 100 hz 4. This is true. Seems to fit into the role of the unit, does feel like a downside for my purposes. Again, plenty of details out there on the Manley site. I've considered IGS stuff many times, but customer support reviews seem very mixed. That unit seems impressive though. Hopefully this thread can stick to feedback on the Nu Mu, and not become a 'which Vari Mu style comp should I get' thread. |
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Post by niklas1073 on Jul 25, 2024 15:23:57 GMT -6
I've used one a little bit at the wonderful Miracle Magnet Studios in PHX. It's a cool piece for a relatively inexpensive VARI MU that can do stereo. However, I prefer the IGS Tubecore 3U for a few reasons. MANLEY NU MU STUFFS:
01. Manley Nu Mu has a control called HIP which supposedly lets some of the Sidechain through, but I don't think the frequency is listed. 02. Monely Nu Mu has more tubes internally, and is closer to a Manley Vari Mu T-Mod. 03. Manely Side Chain frequency point was unlisted...maybe it's in the manual but I didn't see it when I checked? 04. The Input gain control is a three position stepped control that didn't gell with me. My close friend Jane Joyce runs Miracle Magnet out of her home. It's basically a small operation with a ton of great gear... (some of which I helped select) I tested the Tubecore 3U for a client I built a studio for back in 2021 in Tempe so I spent a lot of time with it... Personally I'd go with the IGS Tubecore 3U for a stereo setup, or an IGS Zen (which costs about the same as the Tubecore 3U even though it's solid state) for an Atmos Rig because it's dual mono and has features I would want. Manley is GREAT sounding , but I need stepped controls for recall if it's gonna be my money for my place. YMMV. 1. HIP Function is similar to a side chain, impacts lower db level sections of the track, adding nice clarity and compression. 2. Yes this is similar to a T Mod Vari Mu. Sort of. 3. HPF is 100 hz 4. This is true. Seems to fit into the role of the unit, does feel like a downside for my purposes. Again, plenty of details out there on the Manley site. I've considered IGS stuff many times, but customer support reviews seem very mixed. That unit seems impressive though. Hopefully this thread can stick to feedback on the Nu Mu, and not become a 'which Vari Mu style comp should I get' thread. Regarding customer support IGS is great as far as I am concerned. IGS, WES, Arturia, Telefunken, Soyuz and Benson holds my top 6 in customer support. Always fast reply and you can have a good chat about any issues and what not and stuff gets sorted out. Something most other companies I dealt with fails straight up on. So I wouldn’t worry about that in first hand. I have a mastering edition tubecore, first generation with shared controls. And despite I bought it second hand I have got all the support I have needed for it. I suppose choice of gear comes down to where u are based too, since shipping this stuff for warranty or service over seas is very expensive and time consuming. That’s partially why I prefer near produced units. |
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Post by carymiller on Jul 26, 2024 1:15:51 GMT -6
I've used one a little bit at the wonderful Miracle Magnet Studios in PHX. It's a cool piece for a relatively inexpensive VARI MU that can do stereo. However, I prefer the IGS Tubecore 3U for a few reasons. MANLEY NU MU STUFFS:
01. Manley Nu Mu has a control called HIP which supposedly lets some of the Sidechain through, but I don't think the frequency is listed. 02. Monely Nu Mu has more tubes internally, and is closer to a Manley Vari Mu T-Mod. 03. Manely Side Chain frequency point was unlisted...maybe it's in the manual but I didn't see it when I checked? 04. The Input gain control is a three position stepped control that didn't gell with me. My close friend Jane Joyce runs Miracle Magnet out of her home. It's basically a small operation with a ton of great gear... (some of which I helped select) I tested the Tubecore 3U for a client I built a studio for back in 2021 in Tempe so I spent a lot of time with it... Personally I'd go with the IGS Tubecore 3U for a stereo setup, or an IGS Zen (which costs about the same as the Tubecore 3U even though it's solid state) for an Atmos Rig because it's dual mono and has features I would want. Manley is GREAT sounding , but I need stepped controls for recall if it's gonna be my money for my place. YMMV. 1. HIP Function is similar to a side chain, impacts lower db level sections of the track, adding nice clarity and compression. 2. Yes this is similar to a T Mod Vari Mu. Sort of. 3. HPF is 100 hz 4. This is true. Seems to fit into the role of the unit, does feel like a downside for my purposes. Again, plenty of details out there on the Manley site. I've considered IGS stuff many times, but customer support reviews seem very mixed. That unit seems impressive though. Hopefully this thread can stick to feedback on the Nu Mu, and not become a 'which Vari Mu style comp should I get' thread. No worries. I don't have to talk about IGS stuff or other companies going forward (though I will say the IGS Build Quality is up there with Chandler LTD for me. Built like tanks and their communication with me through Sound Pure was great). Back to NU MU:01. If the HPF Side Chain is 100Hz then the HIIP function is parallel processing at around 100Hz and below probably from reading the manual. Adding back in uncompressed lows (at least I think)? It's definitely unique sounding as a feature. But I don't like that I can't blend it to taste. 02. I do NOT like how the control layout on the NU MU is designed. It just felt very counter-intuitive to me Vs other compressors. And my favorite compressor of all-time is the Chandler Germanium Compressor...which is not a simple control layout that's easy to get used to. So that says something. 03. I love how the Manley stuff sounds in terms of distortion and tone...but the basic tone reminded me of their EQ's. I'm a huge fan of the Massive Passive (which isn't cheap obviously), but I think if budget was no object that'd be the Manley piece I'd want if I could only pick one and I'd turn to other companies for compression. But that's just personal taste. A mastering version of that EQ is like $8K now, which is a shame...but they're awesome for sure. However if I owned the NU MU...I'm not sure I'd bother with buying other Manley boxes because "that sound" is kind of there as soon as you put in a chain. If you really love the Manely "Thing" and you're on a budget. It delivers. 04. There's not a lot of great VariMus in this price range of the NU MU. It is a very good piece and I could easily make records with it. But there's just other stuff I'd rather have for a little more because of how I like to work. I'm very into knowing exactly what frequencies are being compressed or not with a sidechain for example, and when I think about Variable Mu designs...I really love the old Altec compressors more than anything (So again we'd be talking about other designs based off of that kind of compression knee in a modern context, but I'll refrain from going there, it's cool). |
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jul 26, 2024 12:12:32 GMT -6
No worries. I don't have to talk about IGS stuff or other companies going forward (though I will say the IGS Build Quality is up there with Chandler LTD for me. Built like tanks and their communication with me through Sound Pure was great). Back to NU MU:01. If the HPF Side Chain is 100Hz then the HIIP function is parallel processing at around 100Hz and below probably from reading the manual. Adding back in uncompressed lows (at least I think)? It's definitely unique sounding as a feature. But I don't like that I can't blend it to taste. 02. I do NOT like how the control layout on the NU MU is designed. It just felt very counter-intuitive to me Vs other compressors. And my favorite compressor of all-time is the Chandler Germanium Compressor...which is not a simple control layout that's easy to get used to. So that says something. 03. I love how the Manley stuff sounds in terms of distortion and tone...but the basic tone reminded me of their EQ's. I'm a huge fan of the Massive Passive (which isn't cheap obviously), but I think if budget was no object that'd be the Manley piece I'd want if I could only pick one and I'd turn to other companies for compression. But that's just personal taste. A mastering version of that EQ is like $8K now, which is a shame...but they're awesome for sure. However if I owned the NU MU...I'm not sure I'd bother with buying other Manley boxes because "that sound" is kind of there as soon as you put in a chain. If you really love the Manely "Thing" and you're on a budget. It delivers. 04. There's not a lot of great VariMus in this price range of the NU MU. It is a very good piece and I could easily make records with it. But there's just other stuff I'd rather have for a little more because of how I like to work. I'm very into knowing exactly what frequencies are being compressed or not with a sidechain for example, and when I think about Variable Mu designs...I really love the old Altec compressors more than anything (So again we'd be talking about other designs based off of that kind of compression knee in a modern context, but I'll refrain from going there, it's cool). Yeah I wish there was a more clear explanation of what the HIP function is doing. But I guess knowing what context to use it is the key... Seems like people love using it on really dynamic stuff. I haven't really tried it out yet myself. I found the layout pretty intuitive, though I definitely understand how mirrored layouts can be annoying at first. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 26, 2024 12:47:35 GMT -6
Looks pretty sharp!
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