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Post by swurveman on Jun 17, 2016 11:51:00 GMT -6
This is a shootout between my Bricasti M7 on the "Bright Plate" setting and two other well know reverbs set on their plate setting. None of the plates have Pre Delay. Tried to level match as well as possible. There's a bit more reverb than I actually used in the song, but I wanted everybody to be able to hear the reverbs clearly. Apologies if you get sick of my voice....
https%3A//soundcloud.com/songflowerrecording/reverb-plate-a%3Fin%3Dsongflowerrecording/sets/plate-reverb-competition
https%3A//soundcloud.com/songflowerrecording/reverb-plate-b%3Fin%3Dsongflowerrecording/sets/plate-reverb-competition
https%3A//soundcloud.com/songflowerrecording/reverb-plate-c%3Fin%3Dsongflowerrecording/sets/plate-reverb-competition
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Post by M57 on Jun 17, 2016 12:18:34 GMT -6
A, B, C in order for me. They get more metallic and thinner as I go down the alphabet. Hard to say if A is best in a mix because it might be a little bloated in the lower mids but it's the fullest and most natural sounding to me. On the other hand thinner could be the ticket, in which case I'd pick B.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 17, 2016 12:23:42 GMT -6
A for me too. Probably C then B for me though. Either way, I'm personally not tossing out $3500 if it's A.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2016 12:30:24 GMT -6
Listening in the car. A sounds the best to me.
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Post by svart on Jun 17, 2016 12:38:39 GMT -6
Honestly I don't hear that big of a difference. I think any of them would be usable on a full mix as the tails would be more masked by the instruments.
So my question is, hardware or plugs?
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Post by swurveman on Jun 17, 2016 12:46:48 GMT -6
Honestly I don't hear that big of a difference. I think any of them would be usable on a full mix as the tails would be more masked by the instruments. So my question is, hardware or plugs? I think that's true in busy/dense mixes. I think on a piano/vocal or acoustic guitar/vocal mixes the difference would be noticeable. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2016 13:08:48 GMT -6
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Post by mrholmes on Jun 17, 2016 13:13:59 GMT -6
Honestly I don't hear that big of a difference. I think any of them would be usable on a full mix as the tails would be more masked by the instruments. So my question is, hardware or plugs? That was my first thinking too if they all work in mix mode well mhhhhh its a plate its a plate... did say its a plate...?? Which reverb I use depends on the mix and there is no best one. I had mixes where my old Midiverb II was the perfect reverb cutting through the mix. And now shouldn't I use it because its old? Or the freebee Poor Plate was the best one for a snare in my last two mixes. Why not its a tool and if it works I don't care if its a plug in. Once again I do not see myself buying an M7 there is a difference but is it worth 6 K in Euro. |
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Post by swurveman on Jun 17, 2016 14:07:52 GMT -6
Honestly I don't hear that big of a difference. I think any of them would be usable on a full mix as the tails would be more masked by the instruments. So my question is, hardware or plugs? That was my first thinking too if they all work in mix mode well mhhhhh its a plate its a plate... did say its a plate...?? I think there are better plates than others, which is the point of the shootout. For example, I heard a shootout of a real plate vs the Bricasti and thought the real plate was better. The Bricasti also has rooms/halls/chambers/ambient spaces etc.. I'm not going to get into a bunch of shootouts of rooms/chambers/halls etc, but I think judging quality is important. |
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Post by mrholmes on Jun 17, 2016 16:07:45 GMT -6
That was my first thinking too if they all work in mix mode well mhhhhh its a plate its a plate... did say its a plate...?? I think there are better plates than others, which is the point of the shootout. For example, I heard a shootout of a real plate vs the Bricasti and thought the real plate was better. The Bricasti also has rooms/halls/chambers/ambient spaces etc.. I'm not going to get into a bunch of shootouts of rooms/chambers/halls etc, but I think judging quality is important. IMO truth is told in a mix. Processing a single file to compare "quality" is just a very very small window you can look through. |
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Post by drbill on Jun 17, 2016 17:21:15 GMT -6
plates are generally the last thing I go to my M7 for..... Just sayin'.... The rooms are where it really shines.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2016 17:49:11 GMT -6
I always tend to go with darker plates too.
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Post by swurveman on Jun 17, 2016 20:23:56 GMT -6
plates are generally the last thing I go to my M7 for..... Just sayin'.... The rooms are where it really shines. I think it is clear which reverb wraps around around the source giving it a sense of depth that the other two don't. Still, I think that the Bricasti is a difficult sell to most people- including me - because of it's cost and the fact that learning the skill of when to bounce multiple times is a difficult process foreseeing how the final result will glue together. I'm considering selling mine and getting the Eventide H8000 where I can have four instances at once and have more options of sound sculpting and not have to bother with bouncing. |
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Post by swurveman on Jun 19, 2016 9:03:21 GMT -6
Thanks for those who voted on the reverbs. I chose the Bright Plate because it fit the song better.
Here were the reverbs:
A. Bricasti M7- Bright Plate
B. UAD EMT 250 - Female Plate
C. UAD Lexicon 224 Vocal Plate
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