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Post by lpedrum on Jun 13, 2016 17:53:13 GMT -6
I tried the 14 day trial offer for the BX Stereomaker a few days ago, and after messing around with it decided to purchase it for $129. But before I got around to it the plugin went on sale for $19! I'm often looking for ways to make a mono acoustic sound bigger and wider in the mix and this really does the trick. And it seems to do it without that disorienting sense of phase that can happen with some plugins that change mono to stereo. And it can do a nice widening thing to the snare track too. I could see this plugin becoming a different option to small room or ambient verbs, and it's nicely tweakable. I highly recommend giving the trial version a spin. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 13, 2016 21:09:17 GMT -6
I tried the 14 day trial offer for the BX Stereomaker a few days ago, and after messing around with it decided to purchase it for $129. But before I got around to it the plugin went on sale for $19! I'm often looking for ways to make a mono acoustic sound bigger and wider in the mix and this really does the trick. And it seems to do it without that disorienting sense of phase that can happen with some plugins that change mono to stereo. And it can do a nice widening thing to the snare track too. I could see this plugin becoming a different option to small room or ambient verbs, and it's nicely tweakable. I highly recommend giving the trial version a spin. I picked it up a year or two ago and still use it on the reg. Good plug. |
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Post by hasbeen on Jun 14, 2016 5:35:50 GMT -6
Thanks for the tip off. I've been hoping it would go on sale eventually!
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Post by kilroyrock on Jun 14, 2016 7:50:12 GMT -6
I was hoping someone would tell me it's a good idea. I wasn't sure if I should take the plunge, I yell at myself for buying plugins these days. With the console 1 it's mostly just utility plugs I'm getting.
Does this have any cancellation effects like some other widening tools?
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Post by mrholmes on Jun 14, 2016 7:52:10 GMT -6
Whats the point of it? What makes it different from other stereo makers such as Flux, or the internal one in Logic. I can do exactly the same effect with Logics internal stereo width plug in.  |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 14, 2016 8:01:10 GMT -6
Whats the point of it? What makes it different from other stereo makers such as Flux, or the internal one in Logic. I can do exactly the same effect with Logics internal stereo width plug in. I don't have Logic, so can't compare to that, but Flux Stereo Tool is a stereo only plug that makes stereo sources wider. The BX Stereomaker makes mono sources sound stereo. |
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Post by kilroyrock on Jun 14, 2016 8:10:13 GMT -6
I've been wanting to experiment with mono guitars instead of doing a doubling, so it sounds less aggressive, but still not sticking out in a corner of the mix, like a console with some crosstalk
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Jun 14, 2016 8:56:45 GMT -6
i scooped it up. hard not to for $19.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Jun 14, 2016 12:13:05 GMT -6
Can this be used to mono bass below a set frequency? Or only for widening?
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Post by pope on Jun 14, 2016 12:17:11 GMT -6
Whats the point of it? What makes it different from other stereo makers such as Flux, or the internal one in Logic. I can do exactly the same effect with Logics internal stereo width plug in. Can it process mono tracks or is it only for stereo? |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 14, 2016 12:27:04 GMT -6
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Post by lpedrum on Jun 14, 2016 15:03:02 GMT -6
Whats the point of it? What makes it different from other stereo makers such as Flux, or the internal one in Logic. I can do exactly the same effect with Logics internal stereo width plug in. Can it process mono tracks or is it only for stereo? The Stereomaker processes mono tracks. As to why it's different or better than others I can't scientifically answer. I just like the sonic choices it offers and the fact that it doesn't sound super phasey like other stereo processing plugins sometimes do. Not all plugins are the same, even it they claim to do the same thing. There's a free trail for 14 days if someone doesn't want to plunk down $19. |
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Post by lpedrum on Jun 14, 2016 15:05:32 GMT -6
Whats the point of it? What makes it different from other stereo makers such as Flux, or the internal one in Logic. I can do exactly the same effect with Logics internal stereo width plug in. The point is that it sounds good. |
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Post by lpedrum on Jun 14, 2016 15:16:04 GMT -6
Can this be used to mono bass below a set frequency? Or only for widening? Yes to mono bass. See the review video that jcoutu1 posted. |
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Post by M57 on Jun 14, 2016 20:06:59 GMT -6
Whats the point of it? What makes it different from other stereo makers such as Flux, or the internal one in Logic. I can do exactly the same effect with Logics internal stereo width plug in. I have the BX and Logic - and I have played with them both (on a stereo piano track) and as far as I can tell, that they are very different animals. From the BX manual: "bx_stereomaker should be in a 1-in/2-out configuration in ProTools or as a 2-in/2-out plugin in most AU/VST-hosts. Use it on MONO audio signals, this is not a spreader for stereo mixes etc. (we offer bx_control and bx_digital if you want to spread stereo signals and mixes though).
Keep in mind that any incoming signal (if it is stereo) will be mixed down to mono by bx_stereomaker before being fed into the plugin's processing, so make sure not to insert bx_stereomaker on tracks or groups that output actual stereo-content when running in 2-in/2-out mode."I do think they are quite similar in terms of function. Logic's stereo spread can also be used on a stereo track but can only make it 'more' stereo (I think), but in a cool way that let's you approach the spread in a frequency range - with the two sliders giving you the 'tilt.' The graphical interface really makes working with it perhaps easier than the BX. The Order knob on the right offers a phasey character approach - I have to play with it to find a sweet spot. The BX, on the other hand does seem to have just a bit more bells and whistles and so probably a little more functionality. I question that either tool is designed to work best with stereo tracks - even though they can be inserted on them. No doubt if I I needed to use one, I would likely check out the other to see which is the best fit for the project. I may have tried them on a mono track at one time, but I don't remember how that went other than I'm pretty sure I ended up not using either for that particular project. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 15, 2016 3:58:23 GMT -6
Whats the point of it? What makes it different from other stereo makers such as Flux, or the internal one in Logic. I can do exactly the same effect with Logics internal stereo width plug in. I have the BX and Logic - and I have played with them both (on a stereo piano track) and as far as I can tell, that they are very different animals. From the BX manual: "bx_stereomaker should be in a 1-in/2-out configuration in ProTools or as a 2-in/2-out plugin in most AU/VST-hosts. Use it on MONO audio signals, this is not a spreader for stereo mixes etc. (we offer bx_control and bx_digital if you want to spread stereo signals and mixes though).
Keep in mind that any incoming signal (if it is stereo) will be mixed down to mono by bx_stereomaker before being fed into the plugin's processing, so make sure not to insert bx_stereomaker on tracks or groups that output actual stereo-content when running in 2-in/2-out mode."I do think they are quite similar in terms of function. Logic's stereo spread can also be used on a stereo track but can only make it 'more' stereo (I think), but in a cool way that let's you approach the spread in a frequency range - with the two sliders giving you the 'tilt.' The graphical interface really makes working with it perhaps easier than the BX. The Order knob on the right offers a phasey character approach - I have to play with it to find a sweet spot. The BX, on the other hand does seem to have just a bit more bells and whistles and so probably a little more functionality. I question that either tool is designed to work best with stereo tracks - even though they can be inserted on them. No doubt if I I needed to use one, I would likely check out the other to see which is the best fit for the project. I may have tried them on a mono track at one time, but I don't remember how that went other than I'm pretty sure I ended up not using either for that particular project. The box stereo maker should only be used on mono tracks go turn them into stereo tracks, hence the name. I'm fairly certain that the logic app is specifically to widen an already stereo track. |
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Post by M57 on Jun 15, 2016 4:34:12 GMT -6
The box stereo maker should only be used on mono tracks go turn them into stereo tracks, hence the name. I'm fairly certain that the logic app is specifically to widen an already stereo track. I'm pretty sure you're right Jesse - However, the stereo maker will let you take a stereo track to mono and then widen it from there (artificially because it makes the track mono right out of the blocks) As you say, the Logic plug doesn't let you squeeze the image, it's more about enhancement. |
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Post by mrholmes on Jun 15, 2016 9:27:33 GMT -6
Whats the point of it? What makes it different from other stereo makers such as Flux, or the internal one in Logic. I can do exactly the same effect with Logics internal stereo width plug in. I don't have Logic, so can't compare to that, but Flux Stereo Tool is a stereo only plug that makes stereo sources wider. The BX Stereomaker makes mono sources sound stereo. I was asking becasue the two do sound very similar to my ear. And reading the Logic Manual shows they use very similar ideas in processing.... |
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