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Post by swurveman on Jun 9, 2016 16:56:28 GMT -6
I want to fix my mix room-which is too reverberant. I am considering calling Jeff Hedback who lives down the road from me, but I need a solution that can be moved as I don't know how long I'm gonna be mixing in this room. I'm not sure how much of what he does can be portable to other rooms. So, I'm looking at the ASC Attack Wall and wondering if anybody has any experience with it, or has gotten feedback from anybody who has used it.  |
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Post by ericn on Jun 9, 2016 17:00:37 GMT -6
Talk to Jeff, While I like ASC, I am sure Jeff can come up with something just as portable and effective for a lot less.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 9, 2016 17:24:57 GMT -6
Is that the one with the roundish cylinders?
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Post by rowmat on Jun 9, 2016 17:34:04 GMT -6
I'm building DIY tube style traps.
If you live in the US and think Tube Traps are expensive then you can at least double or triple the price if you live on the other side of the planet.
I started calculating the cost of importing enough Tube Traps to do an Attack Wall, QSF, and some larger traps for the control room.
Once I hit $30K AUD I stopped calculating.
If you predominately have reverberation issues at the middle/higher end of the spectrum as opposed to room mode issues then I would look at less expensive options.
I recently used two large DIY traps while tracking upright bass.
Our room isn't large and the resultant recording was very even throughout the frequency range which is often not the case with upright bass especially in small rooms due to strong room modes.
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Post by rowmat on Jun 9, 2016 17:52:36 GMT -6
Is that the one with the roundish cylinders? Yes. |
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Post by swurveman on Jun 9, 2016 19:01:30 GMT -6
Talk to Jeff, While I like ASC, I am sure Jeff can come up with something just as portable and effective for a lot less. Thanks eric. I'm not sure how long I'm gonna stay where I'm at. So, I need portability. |
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Post by ericn on Jun 9, 2016 19:04:15 GMT -6
Talk to Jeff, While I like ASC, I am sure Jeff can come up with something just as portable and effective for a lot less. Thanks eric. I'm not sure how long I'm gonna stay where I'm at. So, I need portability. Simple stands make portability of most traps pretty easy, Jeff is very reasonable in price! |
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Post by swurveman on Jun 9, 2016 19:07:58 GMT -6
I'm building DIY tube style traps. If you live in the US and think Tube Traps are expensive then you can at least double or triple the price if you live on the other side of the planet. I started calculating the cost of importing enough Tube Traps to do an Attack Wall, QSF, and some larger traps for the control room. Once I hit $30K AUD I stopped calculating. If you predominately have reverberation issues at the middle/higher end of the spectrum as opposed to room mode issues then I would look at less expensive options. I recently used two large DIY traps while tracking upright bass. Our room isn't large and the resultant recording was very even throughout the frequency range which is often not the case with upright bass especially in small rooms due to strong room modes. Thanks rowmat. I'm at the point where I really don't want to spend more money doing the DIY thing, because it takes a lot of time and in the end I really don't know what I'm doing -particularly regarding diffusion and what would be an ideal room response. I can build things, but I really don't know how to put it all together. Also, I have an unusual shaped room. So, things like mode calculators don't work for me. Hopefully, I can find an affordable solution..... |
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Post by Randge on Jun 10, 2016 6:32:02 GMT -6
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Post by swurveman on Jun 10, 2016 7:44:44 GMT -6
Thanks Randy. I've looked at those acoustic curtains. Good concept. The more I think about it, I think it's time to bring an acoustician in first and get a real sense of the room's weaknesses. Hopefully the combination of knowing what the room needs and the right products will improve it and give me portable solutions. Should be an interesting experience. Hope I can afford it..... |
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Post by subspace on Jun 10, 2016 11:05:44 GMT -6
When I was building out my tracking room I had about 20 rolls of R13 stacked in my control room waiting for framing to be completed. I moved the couch and stacked them behind the mix position in a curve 4 rolls high, 5 stacks long. It sounded amazing.
I've often thought of buying another 20 rolls to permanently store there, maybe wrapped in cloth for extra super pro-ness...
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Post by Randge on Jun 10, 2016 11:52:41 GMT -6
Thanks Randy. I've looked at those acoustic curtains. Good concept. The more I think about it, I think it's time to bring an acoustician in first and get a real sense of the room's weaknesses. Hopefully the combination of knowing what the room needs and the right products will improve it and give me portable solutions. Should be an interesting experience. Hope I can afford it..... They have a full line of acoustic treatments that can be easily installed and removed is why I posted that. I'm gonna order some of their round corner traps for a little amp booth I am finishing now. The booth is almost done, but I am gonna encase a small watt amp in the round absorbers to help with the bleed of drums being right next to the little booth. |
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Post by drbill on Jun 10, 2016 12:04:53 GMT -6
Thanks Randy. I've looked at those acoustic curtains. Good concept. The more I think about it, I think it's time to bring an acoustician in first and get a real sense of the room's weaknesses. Hopefully the combination of knowing what the room needs and the right products will improve it and give me portable solutions. Should be an interesting experience. Hope I can afford it..... Talk to Jeff. Tell him your needs. Mention something like the acoustic headwall in my new CRM and see what he has to say. Any way you go, it will still be money well spent. He's totally affordable and will give you OPTIONS which you almost certainly are not aware of. He ended up saving me many wild goose chases and money, and is the kind of guy who morphs to your needs rather than dictate what you MUST do. Worth the minimal time, effort and cash to find out what's going to REALLY help. That entire front wall is "removable". Not that I would WANT to remove it. heh heh but it is. Waaaaaay cheaper than the ASC walls which although great, are really designed for people who mix in different situations continuously who need to bring some form of consistency between rooms with them. Jeff. |
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Post by swurveman on Jun 10, 2016 14:42:10 GMT -6
Thanks Randy. I've looked at those acoustic curtains. Good concept. The more I think about it, I think it's time to bring an acoustician in first and get a real sense of the room's weaknesses. Hopefully the combination of knowing what the room needs and the right products will improve it and give me portable solutions. Should be an interesting experience. Hope I can afford it..... Talk to Jeff. Tell him your needs. Mention something like the acoustic headwall in my new CRM and see what he has to say. Any way you go, it will still be money well spent. He's totally affordable and will give you OPTIONS which you almost certainly are not aware of. He ended up saving me many wild goose chases and money, and is the kind of guy who morphs to your needs rather than dictate what you MUST do. Worth the minimal time, effort and cash to find out what's going to REALLY help. That entire front wall is "removable". Not that I would WANT to remove it. heh heh but it is. Waaaaaay cheaper than the ASC walls which although great, are really designed for people who mix in different situations continuously who need to bring some form of consistency between rooms with them. Jeff. Thanks. Already contacted him. Should be interesting. |
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