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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 13:40:01 GMT -6
Well, Slate did say this was coming on Facebook two years ago but a week after the big Empirical Labs announcement here's a reasonably priced Distressor that will rival the hardware. It must suck to be Dave Derr right now.  |
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Post by sozocaps on May 18, 2016 14:35:15 GMT -6
for those who believe plugins are EXACT REPLICA's of hardware.... I have lots of plugs and hardware but I sure do not feel plugs are nearly the same.
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Post by ericn on May 18, 2016 16:31:32 GMT -6
This is distressing I mean depressing!
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Post by ericn on May 18, 2016 16:32:40 GMT -6
for those who believe plugins are EXACT REPLICA's of hardware.... I have lots of plugs and hardware but I sure do not feel plugs are nearly the same. And why our boy Steven Employs guys like Paul Wolf and Dave Hill to design hardware! |
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Post by tasteliketape on May 18, 2016 16:42:42 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on May 18, 2016 17:28:55 GMT -6
I'll say this for Steven, he would have made a great drug dealer, give them that free taste and get them hooked! |
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Post by kcatthedog on May 18, 2016 17:46:00 GMT -6
you may notice that the slate monthly subscription price has quietly creeped up to $25 not certain if that includes everything as originally it was cheaper and you had to pay more for relab ?
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Post by ericn on May 18, 2016 18:14:38 GMT -6
you may notice that the slate monthly subscription price has quietly creeped up to $25 not certain if that includes everything as originally it was cheaper and you had to pay more for relab ? Not surprised, I have this love hate thing with subscriptions, just like Netflix, HBO Vudu ect. It seams like a bargain till I add up all my fees and realize I in the end I have nothing. Guys like slate are starting to realize people have figured out they pretty much one or two families of plugins and that's it ! |
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Post by mrholmes on May 18, 2016 19:57:26 GMT -6
Well, Slate did say this was coming on Facebook two years ago but a week after the big Empirical Labs announcement here's a reasonably priced Distressor that will rival the hardware. It must suck to be Dave Derr right now. Dave should stay easy first of all if Slate says its this Summer it will be Summer in two years. Second he may should call his lawyers .... is not the distressor his invention? |
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Post by jakeharris on May 18, 2016 20:50:56 GMT -6
Dave should stay easy first of all if Slate says its this Summer it will be Summer in two years. Second he may should call his lawyers .... is not the distressor his invention? You can't copyright an electronic circuit, only apply for a patent if it uses technology you invented. What's protected in a piece of gear are the name (trademark), and the PCB's layout + front panel design (both considered artwork). Everything else is free-game. |
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Post by ericn on May 18, 2016 21:07:22 GMT -6
Dave should stay easy first of all if Slate says its this Summer it will be Summer in two years. Second he may should call his lawyers .... is not the distressor his invention? You can't copyright an electronic circuit, only apply for a patent if it uses technology you invented. What's protected in a piece of gear are the name (trademark), and the PCB's layout + front panel design (both considered artwork). Everything else is free-game. Nailed it! |
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 18, 2016 21:37:29 GMT -6
I'm not familiar with exactly what hardware the "Swiss" is modeling.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 22:16:34 GMT -6
I'm not familiar with exactly what hardware the "Swiss" is modeling. Distressor |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 22:18:07 GMT -6
for those who believe plugins are EXACT REPLICA's of hardware.... I have lots of plugs and hardware but I sure do not feel plugs are nearly the same. I believe they are when I can't hear the difference and in the case of Slates stuff I've never been able to |
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 18, 2016 22:27:09 GMT -6
Thanks jordanvoth, forgive me for not knowing, but do you mean there's a Slate product called Distressor?
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Post by ragan on May 18, 2016 22:45:33 GMT -6
Thanks jordanvoth, forgive me for not knowing, but do you mean there's a Slate product called Distressor? Hey Martin. The Distressor is a (hardware) compressor made by Empirical Labs that became a runaway hit from the 90s onward. It's about as iconic as new design/modern gear gets. They do a lot of things really well and you don't see any large studios without at least a pair or two. The place I rent gear from, which has a ridiculous list of gear, has 10 of them (granted they have 2 or 3 rooms there). Slate has been talking about modeling it forever, he just (slyly) announced it officially right before the Empirical Labs guy, Dave Derr, puts his plugin emulation on sale. |
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Post by kcatthedog on May 19, 2016 6:31:12 GMT -6
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Post by kilroyrock on May 19, 2016 7:00:29 GMT -6
EVOLVED.
Is this 100th 1176 plugin going to be described as warm, lush, with "just the right amount of top end" and huge lows?
Let's face it, i'll be installing the free one though. You can't sell me on subscription services. I don't have cable tv anymore and am still on PT 11.
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Post by swurveman on May 19, 2016 7:45:44 GMT -6
I'll say this for Steven, he would have made a great drug dealer, give them that free taste and get them hooked! I've tried Slate's free bundles many times and just can't on with them. I always end after the trial. To me, he represents just how generic plugins are. He's got all the imitations of the hardware all available on one insert, but I never feel the mojo. I know others feel differently, power to them, but he never got me hooked and I really use very few plugins anymore. The one's I use most are the parametrics (Fabfilter - Waves Q 10) to get a quick feel for frequencies. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 19, 2016 7:47:30 GMT -6
Yeah, funny that every other medium is moving away from subscription bundles to a la carte...yet, plugins...
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Post by Johnkenn on May 19, 2016 7:49:02 GMT -6
I don't have any problem with him offering these as subscription - as long as he also offers them for purchase. It's the companies that ONLY offer subscription that piss me off. I'd rather just go rent the hardware.
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Post by ericn on May 19, 2016 7:58:02 GMT -6
Yeah, funny that every other medium is moving away from subscription bundles to a la carte...yet, plugins... As The Beard of Audio Knowledge has stated earlier, new accounting rules really are makeing software companies run to the subscription model. It also means a predictable cash flow, plugins are a world of fashion, and that means the constant pressure to develop, market, develop, market. add in the world of credit card fees and other fun stuff to keep the lights on. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 19, 2016 8:51:33 GMT -6
I get it, I just like being able to own what I use on a regular basis. However, it's nice to be able to rent for a month if I have a special project.
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Post by ericn on May 19, 2016 9:19:58 GMT -6
I get it, I just like being able to own what I use on a regular basis. However, it's nice to be able to rent for a month if I have a special project. I know and agree! Of course if you read any of your software users agreement, you realize in the world of software you never owned it to begin with! It sucks, and I find it morally corrupt, but I became addicted when I was privy to Everything on NFRSand then this damn IPhone ! Ah the brave new world of software we give them money we own nothing! |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 19, 2016 9:32:14 GMT -6
Yes, I've read that...but for all intents and purposes, I possess them for the stated amount and never have to pay anything else. Basically I have licensed them for perpetuity.
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