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Post by jcoutu1 on May 4, 2016 6:08:50 GMT -6
Hey Ward, it seem clear at this point that Samar isn't going to send a working demo to svart to run a shootout again. Most cats know that standard practice is running a guitar through a 121 and 57 and blending to taste. Any chance of a shootout where you put up a Samar/121 in the same position and a 57/M80 in the same spot. We could then compare the ribbons to each other, dynamics to each other, and a ribbon/dynamic blend with each combination. ...sounds fun right? It would be great if you could have this on my desk by 5 today, mmmkay. I might have to go ahead and have you come in on Saturday too. |
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Post by Ward on May 4, 2016 7:03:48 GMT -6
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... challenge accepted. I have been far too slack in doing these demos and comparisons and should be maced for such atrocious negligence of my duties.
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Post by markfouxman on May 5, 2016 17:39:48 GMT -6
Hey Ward , it seem clear at this point that Samar isn't going to send a working demo to svart to run a shootout again. It is not that we don't want--for months all our demo mics are out the house in sessions and demos... Best, M |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 5, 2016 18:54:28 GMT -6
And I have to say, the thread that came out of it was kind've not the nicest towards Samar. I wouldn't have sent another out if it were me... I - for one - liked most of the "broken" Samar files better than the 121...
There isn't any deception going on. They're both great mics. The Samar is going to be more full range than the 121...it was designed that way.
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 5, 2016 19:08:33 GMT -6
And I have to say, the thread that came out of it was kind've not the nicest towards Samar. I wouldn't have sent another out if it were me... I - for one - liked most of the "broken" Samar files better than the 121... There isn't any deception going on. They're both great mics. The Samar is going to be more full range than the 121...it was designed that way. I'm not worried about deception, I just want to hear these things. It sounded like svart got a broken mic to demo and Samar was going to send a new demo. I would think it would be in his interest to have the thread corrected with working mic samples rather than what was used. Since that hasn't happened and Ward has both, let's get his take. |
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Post by Ward on May 5, 2016 19:54:48 GMT -6
It's going to have to wait until tomorrow or Saturday now... I've been singing backing vocals all night after coaching a guy singing his lead vocal for a couple of hours and demonstrating technique and timing, and I am kind of hoarse to the point I'll do damage if I don't rest now.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 5, 2016 22:45:22 GMT -6
I think it's pretty clear that Mark and Samar make the highest fidelity ribbon mics that have ever been designed, the high freq response is unheard of for ribbons.
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 6, 2016 1:25:07 GMT -6
I think it's pretty clear that Mark and Samar make the highest fidelity ribbon mics that have ever been designed, the high freq response is unheard of for ribbons. It's not clear to those of us who only heard files with a broken mic. |
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Post by NoFilterChuck on May 6, 2016 7:07:38 GMT -6
I did post a video review with it on my sax against my CV4. I guess you didnt see it...
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 6, 2016 7:22:12 GMT -6
I did post a video review with it on my sax against my CV4. I guess you didnt see it... I saw your video. That's not such an apples to apples comparison, plus I don't have experience with the modded CV4. A comparison with the Royer would be much more meaningful to most of us. Since you brought it up, what other ribbons have you put on your sax? I saw you linked to this video in the comments of one of your videos... I dig the sax sound that he's getting with the RCA and the AEA, mainly because it's smoothing out his tone. Wouldn't the extension of the Samar kind of mitigate that a bit? I feel like both these mics sound a bit smoother than the Samar in your video, but again, different players, horns etc. Checking out the AEA site, they have a video of a guy playing with an N22 (actually a guy that I work with regularly), but this tone isn't getting me going at all. |
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Post by EmRR on May 6, 2016 8:24:35 GMT -6
Not sure when I'll get to posting samples, but I was able to put Samar MF65 / AEA R84 / Royer SF12 in an aligned vertical position roughly 6 feet from drums in a nice live room with bleed from 3-5 other instruments/vocals around it. MF65's were printed mid/side, so I'll zero that to mono for comparison, the SF12 was printed as a mono single side source for lack of inputs, we maxed the place out at 24 live sources.  |
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Post by tonycamphd on May 6, 2016 9:42:22 GMT -6
I think it's pretty clear that Mark and Samar make the highest fidelity ribbon mics that have ever been designed, the high freq response is unheard of for ribbons. It's not clear to those of us who only heard files with a broken mic. I posted files months ago, so did Emrr, and others if i remember correctly..., i'd also add that you don't need it to sit next to anything for comparison to recognize extreme quality in a mic.... |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2016 20:42:48 GMT -6
OK...Everybody be nice.
@jcoutu - did you like the 121 better in the direct comparisons? If so, and you would be using it for EG's, it's certainly the classic choice.
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