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Post by 79sg on Apr 28, 2016 14:32:00 GMT -6
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Post by mikec on Apr 28, 2016 17:06:34 GMT -6
Got the email for existing users and just watched the video. I already really like the current mix bus, but now this one looks really nice with 12 stereo busses and the new eq features.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 28, 2016 17:37:21 GMT -6
Well...I am now paying attention.
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Post by odyssey76 on Apr 28, 2016 18:07:26 GMT -6
I'm really enjoying Mixbus these days. 32C looks incredible. Does anyone know if there is special pricing for existing Mixbus users or is it $299 for everyone?
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Post by 79sg on Apr 28, 2016 18:11:44 GMT -6
You should have received an email from Harrison.
$149 for Mixbus users.
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Post by odyssey76 on Apr 28, 2016 18:34:31 GMT -6
I didn't see an email, maybe it went to spam. Looking forward to checking this out! Edit: just got the email now. Thanks 79sg! |
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Post by winetree on Apr 28, 2016 18:38:14 GMT -6
I'd worked on Harrison 32 series console and have been searching for that sound for years.
Hope this is the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 22:55:38 GMT -6
"Minimum 1200 px height monitor is highly recommended"
More than Full HD *recommended*? Really?
OK, we have one 4k display, but the one i normally use for the mixer screen is FullHD i.e. 1080 px height?
Hmmmm.
Got the email tonight. Great. A few more busses and sends and the 4band EQ. Hmmmm.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 23:05:52 GMT -6
And i just feel really familiar with 3.3.
I am curious if it needs much more processing power because of the new channel emulation.
Great update price.
Funny, i am sure many engineers will jump the train now - just because it is priced in the range of other DAWs, at least if you take the full pack of plugins.
Well, now Mixbus gets to the point of full range pro DAW that will be hard to compete with for the others soundwise - still for an attractive price, though.
Seems a bit like a no-brainer. At least for my upgrade price.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 23:18:19 GMT -6
I'd worked on Harrison 32 series console and have been searching for that sound for years. Hope this is the answer. Yes. i am very curious also. A friend of mine is in the process of retauration of a Harrison 32C, uhum, for many years now. Maybe i get this sound earlier than he does?  I think you will jump the train to the Mixbus 32C to find out very soon, right? I just made the decision to do it. Now. Mixbus got better and better with every version, the only thing - i have to learn to use the 4-band EQ just as intuitively as the 3-band one. ;-) They are clever with the marketing. It just made the round that version 3 offers a lot of great things in a mature state, and NOW they play the joker. Really good. |
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Post by ericn on Apr 29, 2016 1:27:27 GMT -6
I want Mixbus MR 4 !!!
Or a special Raven for the Raven addition!!
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Post by odyssey76 on Apr 29, 2016 3:07:43 GMT -6
I'd worked on Harrison 32 series console and have been searching for that sound for years. Hope this is the answer. Yes. i am very curious also. A friend of mine is in the process of retauration of a Harrison 32C, uhum, for many years now. Maybe i get this sound earlier than he does? I think you will jump the train to the Mixbus 32C to find out very soon, right? I just made the decision to do it. Now. Mixbus got better and better with every version, the only thing - i have to learn to use the 4-band EQ just as intuitively as the 3-band one. ;-) They are clever with the marketing. It just made the round that version 3 offers a lot of great things in a mature state, and NOW they play the joker. Really good. Would really like to hear your thoughts about the 32c sound vs. V.3 sound especially since I know you're a long time Mixbus user. I agree with you in regards to marketing, they know what they're doing. |
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Post by keymod on Apr 29, 2016 3:10:25 GMT -6
I wonder if their dedicated controller is right around the corner..................
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 3:45:59 GMT -6
Hey guys,
i loaded wiz's song project into MB 32C.
Everything where it should be, EQ in defaults.
I twisted quite a lot with the EQ, especially boosting is the critical discipline for digital EQ (OK-sounding cuts are easier to achieve). Sounds great, though.
It is the new EQ that opens up quite new possibilities. The 3-band is good already, and i like the minimal approach, but this EQ now tops the old one with greater flexibility. Of course the EQ sounds excellent. I made a bit excessive use of it, that was really fun. "One more" (Spinal Tap)
Yes. i am already in love with this one.Yummy, and again, the same great workflow, but playing with the new EQ brought me to other mix decisions. I kicked some compressors and limiters, changed the reverb and let it breathe more, also more room, less pop sound and took the harpsichord effect out. Yes, i like it from the start. Is it worth the upgrade price?
Hmm, let's say you can't blame EQ possibilities and quality anymore for your mixing crimes.
It is worth the upgrade for the plugin price of the EQ alone. Sure. Feels great. Serious tool.
Not that there is anything wrong with the normal Mixbus. It is just like you upgrade to the big brother console of your favorite manufacturer. Worth the 162 Euro i paid incl. taxes? Yes. Yes. Good investment. Uploading wiz's track to soundcloud now. I will link to it in the "I don't cry no more" thread.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 4:14:43 GMT -6
OK, it's up and also downloadable as flac. Soundcloud steals a bit bass due compression. See wiz's thread.
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Post by winetree on Apr 29, 2016 12:29:50 GMT -6
This is the sound of a real Harrison 32C Console
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 14:09:01 GMT -6
Mmmmh. Yep, this is good. I have the impression it has a more intense fingerprint, but on the other side, i used the new mixbus on very low conservative levels, and stuff was not tracked through it, so that you get the fingerprint a second time and nothing else probably.
As i might have said before, i think the highs that were already excellent, made another step up, which is great... i am not sure how much of this is expectation bias, but the new EQ all in all gives an even better feeling than the previous version and feels "expensive".
Don't know how close it is to the real thing. But i can hear similarities in the fingerprint of this video instantly, although there are different factors for sure, like tape/tape emulation etc.... and me not familiar with the desk still...I guess i just scraped on the surface of what you can do with the EQ if you are really really familiar with it...
So i guess if you guys want to know, jump the train. Still the DAW is excellent value for the money and for sure the best "stock" sounding there is. I mean it. Right now i see no real competition to it when it comes to sound and workflow at mixing time.
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Post by miscend on Apr 29, 2016 15:34:57 GMT -6
Is it a lot more stable now? There were reports the mix buss was buggy and didn't work well with some plugins.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 17:11:02 GMT -6
Plugins are always a PITA for DAWs, and beeing compatible to all of them is impossible.
But from what i use, it works good. According to Ben from Harrison, they fully implemented the VST standard. You can't run 32bit plugins in the 64bit Mixbus and the other way round.
So if there is trouble, usage of a kind of container or bitbridge might also resove issues with not instantly compatible plugins. This seems to be a good solution. Software like jBitbridge.
Also, LADSPA and LV2 plugs are nice for beeing platform independent plugins that run rock stable in Mixbus.
How stable is it? It is stable as Ardour is. Harrisons developers work constantly on that.
My personal impression is, that it is great in a specialized audio optimized Linux.
Great performance there, low cpu load compared to what is shown in windows, stable to me, but Version 3.3 and 32C-3 i did not use enough, i don't edit much in Mixbus until now, so i cannot say how stable it is now. I always look into the changelogs, and they are really close to what customers report, fix huge amounts of errors and implement more and more small nifty features.
While mixing today with the new console emu in Win8.1 i had no problem whatsoever.
It got much more stable the last updates than it was at the beginning of Version 3 and a lot more stable than 2.5 in the meantime, i.e. my feeling is it is now in a seriously mature stable state already, good enough to seriously work with it mostly flawless. Show me a bug-free DAW....
But i find it very stable in the meantime....
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Post by mikec on Apr 30, 2016 6:18:47 GMT -6
I downloaded Mixbus 32C late yesterday afternoon and spent a couple of bug free hours with it. Just added in a superior drummer backing track and then tracked a stereo resonator guitar part and vocal. The display looks great on my Raven Mti and I really like having the 12 stereo buses. I can see myself using this a lot in the future. I really like having the EQ and compressors built right into the mixer interface. Just wish Soundtoys Echoboy would work without the audio drop outs. I switched from ProTools to Studio One a while back and while I really like Studio One, it just seems easier and faster to get a good mix on mixbus with a lot fewer plugins.
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Post by henge on Apr 30, 2016 6:57:36 GMT -6
Plugins are always a PITA for DAWs, and beeing compatible to all of them is impossible. But from what i use, it works good. According to Ben from Harrison, they fully implemented the VST standard. You can't run 32bit plugins in the 64bit Mixbus and the other way round. So if there is trouble, usage of a kind of container or bitbridge might also resove issues with not instantly compatible plugins. This seems to be a good solution. Software like jBitbridge. Also, LADSPA and LV2 plugs are nice for beeing platform independent plugins that run rock stable in Mixbus. How stable is it? It is stable as Ardour is. Harrisons developers work constantly on that. My personal impression is, that it is great in a specialized audio optimized Linux. Great performance there, low cpu load compared to what is shown in windows, stable to me, but Version 3.3 and 32C-3 i did not use enough, i don't edit much in Mixbus until now, so i cannot say how stable it is now. I always look into the changelogs, and they are really close to what customers report, fix huge amounts of errors and implement more and more small nifty features. While mixing today with the new console emu in Win8.1 i had no problem whatsoever. It got much more stable the last updates than it was at the beginning of Version 3 and a lot more stable than 2.5 in the meantime, i.e. my feeling is it is now in a seriously mature stable state already, good enough to seriously work with it mostly flawless. Show me a bug-free DAW.... But i find it very stable in the meantime.... I have to respectfully disagree! Plugins are NOT a pita for Reaper and I assume other DAWS. 32c looks very cool but if it can't run plugs reliably then it's not workable for most work that I do. |
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Post by papag on Apr 30, 2016 10:05:50 GMT -6
If this is essentially the same DAW but with an expanded EQ and more mix buses I don't understand why this wasn't just an upgrade but needed to be a completely separate DAW.
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Post by keymod on Apr 30, 2016 10:53:13 GMT -6
If this is essentially the same DAW but with an expanded EQ and more mix buses I don't understand why this wasn't just an upgrade but needed to be a completely separate DAW. I was sort of wondering this also. Does this make the original version obsolete? Why the need for both? |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 16:50:45 GMT -6
Plugins are always a PITA for DAWs, and beeing compatible to all of them is impossible. But from what i use, it works good. According to Ben from Harrison, they fully implemented the VST standard. You can't run 32bit plugins in the 64bit Mixbus and the other way round. So if there is trouble, usage of a kind of container or bitbridge might also resove issues with not instantly compatible plugins. This seems to be a good solution. Software like jBitbridge. Also, LADSPA and LV2 plugs are nice for beeing platform independent plugins that run rock stable in Mixbus. How stable is it? It is stable as Ardour is. Harrisons developers work constantly on that. My personal impression is, that it is great in a specialized audio optimized Linux. Great performance there, low cpu load compared to what is shown in windows, stable to me, but Version 3.3 and 32C-3 i did not use enough, i don't edit much in Mixbus until now, so i cannot say how stable it is now. I always look into the changelogs, and they are really close to what customers report, fix huge amounts of errors and implement more and more small nifty features. While mixing today with the new console emu in Win8.1 i had no problem whatsoever. It got much more stable the last updates than it was at the beginning of Version 3 and a lot more stable than 2.5 in the meantime, i.e. my feeling is it is now in a seriously mature stable state already, good enough to seriously work with it mostly flawless. Show me a bug-free DAW.... But i find it very stable in the meantime.... I have to respectfully disagree! Plugins are NOT a pita for Reaper and I assume other DAWS. 32c looks very cool but if it can't run plugs reliably then it's not workable for most work that I do. Oh, of course Mixbus can run plugs reliably. I did not want to say it is not. Not at all. Let me try to explain in a bit more detail and my very own personal experience. I have 2 plugins that i am aware of that do not work correctly / like in other DAWs in mixbus of certainly much more than hundred. Speaking of the Windows 64bit version. The problem most of the time is in side effects of quirky code and VST standard violations in the plugins. Most DAW developers work around these problems for popular plugins with "exception programming" to satisfy their customer requests and "bug" reports, not because their own code is faulty. I do absolutely not want to start fingerpointing to single plugin developer companies though. But if you follow developer discussions about these topics, it becomes obvious that this is not a black/white sort of problematic. Just because users say "but it works in XXX" does not mean the plugin is standard compliant *at all*. Although the user can not be blamed at all. He just want to get things working he paid for. The problem, which support is in responsibility, host or plugin, is as old as hen and egg. Not specific to DAWs, see OS and software general problematic. |
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