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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 17, 2016 13:16:01 GMT -6
I've toyed with doing some templates for mixing...but I'm just wondering if it truly is any faster. So - say session has more tracks than my template. Then I have to add more tracks, copy over plugs - rearrange groups, etc. I might as well have just opened the original session and spent the 10 minutes adding busses and global plugs on that session...Or am I just doing it all wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 13:40:33 GMT -6
Pretty big time saver here, I have tracking templates and mixing templates that both save me a ton of time. I tend to make templates that group and bus everything how I like it (kick in and kick out grouped to one group or aux) with my FX all set up so that when I get files it's just a matter of placing regions to the write channels. I also just have VCC and VTM sitting on everything to begin with so I save some time there too. I usually have a reamp track in the mix template in case I get DIs, etc. having all my i/o routed to my analog hardware saves time too. It definitely depends on how you work as my templates may not be any good for you but if you find yourself say using VCC on every channel, why spend a minute doing that every single mix when it can just be on a template? Basically take the things that you're always doing and build them into a template. I would 100% recommend making templates
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Post by noah shain on Apr 17, 2016 13:40:45 GMT -6
Hell yes I do! It would kill me if I didn't.
You can have a template session that has all your most used chains...like all your FX returns. Name the aux so when you "import session data" you can identify and grab your go to FX chains quickly. Same with busses and sub busses or have a "bass" channel in there or even "rock bass" "synth bass" "upright", whatever.
When I mix ITB I end up with 8 to 16 different busses and /or Master Faders for various duties. I keep them in a session that I can access quickly to pull stuff in. It's a huge time saver. If I come up with a new something I like I can pull it in to the template session and keep it.
When I mix a record where all the songs were recorded similarly I use the first mix as a template for the following mixes. Saves hours. Pull in the template settings and drop them directly to the new tracks using Import session data and match tracks. It's the same way I do an otb mix. Leave the gear how it was on the last mix and match output assignments and levels in PT.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 13:45:53 GMT -6
Hell yes I do! It would kill me if I didn't. You can have a template session that has all your most used chains...like all your FX returns. Name the aux so when you "import session data" you can identify and grab your go to FX chains quickly. Same with busses and sub busses or have a "bass" channel in there or even "rock bass" "synth bass" "upright", whatever. When I mix ITB I end up with 8 to 16 different busses and /or Master Faders for various duties. I keep them in a session that I can access quickly to pull stuff in. It's a huge time saver. If I come up with a new something I like I can pull it in to the template session and keep it. When I mix a record where all the songs were recorded similarly I use the first mix as a template for the following mixes. Saves hours. Pull in the template settings and drop them directly to the new tracks using Import session data and match tracks. It's the same way I do an otb mix. Leave the gear how it was on the last mix and match output assignments and levels in PT. This too, the only thing I do is I take all the automation off the 1st mix before I save it as a template. |
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Post by noah shain on Apr 17, 2016 13:46:49 GMT -6
Hell yes I do! It would kill me if I didn't. You can have a template session that has all your most used chains...like all your FX returns. Name the aux so when you "import session data" you can identify and grab your go to FX chains quickly. Same with busses and sub busses or have a "bass" channel in there or even "rock bass" "synth bass" "upright", whatever. When I mix ITB I end up with 8 to 16 different busses and /or Master Faders for various duties. I keep them in a session that I can access quickly to pull stuff in. It's a huge time saver. If I come up with a new something I like I can pull it in to the template session and keep it. When I mix a record where all the songs were recorded similarly I use the first mix as a template for the following mixes. Saves hours. Pull in the template settings and drop them directly to the new tracks using Import session data and match tracks. It's the same way I do an otb mix. Leave the gear how it was on the last mix and match output assignments and levels in PT. This too, the only thing I do is I take all the automation off the 1st mix before I save it as a template. Smart I always delete it in the mix session. Duh. How'd I not think of that? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 13:56:26 GMT -6
This too, the only thing I do is I take all the automation off the 1st mix before I save it as a template. Smart I always delete it in the mix session. Duh. How'd I not think of that? If I'm replacing samples by hand I usually leave those in the template too, I'm always interested in finding faster ways to get rolling. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 17, 2016 16:27:16 GMT -6
1000 time yes, mix and tracking session templates, JK, just make way more than enough channels, then make inactive and hide, then if you need them you... blah blah..
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 17, 2016 16:36:26 GMT -6
I've toyed with doing some templates for mixing...but I'm just wondering if it truly is any faster. So - say session has more tracks than my template. Then I have to add more tracks, copy over plugs - rearrange groups, etc. I might as well have just opened the original session and spent the 10 minutes adding busses and global plugs on that session...Or am I just doing it all wrong? imagine writeing a score only with virtual instruments, lets say 500 diffrent sounds organized in a template, you are going to mix and write at the same time because time is tight....you have three aditional computers runnig.... i think a template makes sense.... I use them often, and yes some changes too.... it does not makes sense to start at zero all the time, if I want to start at zero I still can do it.... I love templates I have diffrent ones for diffrent stiles of music.... |
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Post by wiz on Apr 17, 2016 17:19:55 GMT -6
I am the opposite...
I build em each time
but I am but a simple man, with simple tastes... 8)
cheers
Wiz
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 17, 2016 18:23:57 GMT -6
I'm not arguing against templates...just wondering if the way I had been doing it was saving me any time. I actually haven't bothered with it in a while. But I never use import session data. So I need o watch some videos.
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Post by noah shain on Apr 17, 2016 18:30:58 GMT -6
I'm not arguing against templates...just wondering if the way I had been doing it was saving me any time. I actually haven't bothered with it in a while. But I never use import session data. So I need o watch some videos. It's so easy. Your first mix can kinda become the template for the album. Along with some standard-Ish templates you're golden. Also allows you to go "oh man I really nailed the kick sound on that song two years ago...I wonder what those settings I didn't write down would sound like on this kick?" Few clicks...Grammy. |
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Post by svart on Apr 17, 2016 20:14:29 GMT -6
Yes, I have a DAW track template, and a corresponding DSP mixer template too. Saves a while clicking and choosing the streams and the routing between the DAW and the DSP stuff. It takes roughly 35 minutes to set everything up from scratch. When I upgraded to the latest SSL Mixer software, I timed myself..
I don't think I could handle doing a setup every single time, so i save a couple templates for each program.
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 17, 2016 20:23:18 GMT -6
In the DAW I use the same set up "template" i've been using for 25 years mimicking a console, with all the routing to bus's, auxes, stems from the analog days, if you get into a routine that works, it makes you more efficient, so why break it? Plus the repeatability allows you to hone in on the application at hand giving you the opportunity to refine your technique, verses starting over again every time. I also assign instruments to exactly the same tracks since back then as well, and probably will until forever!!!!(long echoooo), L to R, Bass's on channel 1+, kicks on next available, snares on next avail etc..., all my effects sends, stereo subs, always routed the same way, thats why i dig PT's, because it's very console like in it's appearance IMV, and usually do all my mixing in the mix window, i about hate the edit window. I even have new PT/Lynx templates set up for my forthcoming console/hybrid situation, I can't wait to try it out for the first time, i'm sure i'll be tweaking it as i get my groove on with this new stuff, say yes to templates! 8) Say no to drugs... unless they're really good ones!
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 17, 2016 20:27:46 GMT -6
I've gone back and forth. I made some templates, but as I've changed my procedures, they become useless.
Logic has an odd way of dealing with templates, they're unusually difficult to delete. I'll have to work on that soon, as I've stabilized some of my working methods, so a new template wouldn't be a bad idea. Thing is, I keep changing them as my skills evolve, (albeit slowly), so i've stopped using them because Logic's PITA template procedures. One click template removal would sure would be a nice feature if they could include it in their next upgrade.
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Apr 18, 2016 12:51:08 GMT -6
I've gone back and forth. I made some templates, but as I've changed my procedures, they become useless. Logic has an odd way of dealing with templates, they're unusually difficult to delete. I'll have to work on that soon, as I've stabilized some of my working methods, so a new template wouldn't be a bad idea. Thing is, I keep changing them as my skills evolve, (albeit slowly), so i've stopped using them because Logic's PITA template procedures. One click template removal would sure would be a nice feature if they could include it in their next upgrade. No they're not. Go find 'em up in ~/Library/Application Support/Logic/ and delete... Don't be afraid of using Finder to organize your templates either... www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=81849 |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 18, 2016 14:04:17 GMT -6
Thanks for the encouragement Chuck. Sometimes when I try to follow Logic instructions I get from Apple, I hit a spot where there thing I'm supposed to see isn't there, so I try a few other ways, and give up, unless I have lots of time that day..
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Post by jazznoise on Apr 18, 2016 15:07:33 GMT -6
I don't use them, but I don't feel like I do consistent enough work to consider that. I do have saved FX chains and custom presets for some stuff, but a template seems like more fuss than it's worth.
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Apr 18, 2016 19:09:04 GMT -6
In logic, I import specific channels from previous sessions. you can import only the content, only the channel settings, the routing, the automation, etc..
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Post by joseph on Apr 18, 2016 19:59:26 GMT -6
Change my outboard configuration too much to use templates. It's annoying, but I don't have enough money for more AD.
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