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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 4, 2016 9:53:52 GMT -6
Hey,
I am demoing slate trigger 2 and having a good experience.
I have slate ssd so was more interested in how trigger works as an engine as I know the samples.
It is certainly cool how you can just drop in a very well recorded sample, say kick, right into your mix: as I record in a basement 10x20 room this is a feature of trigger I appreciate.
In my current mix, I have some nice soft rolls into fils and turnarounds and ghost notes on the snare, when I trigger the snare I am certainly losing some of this.
I know you can put trigger on an aux and sort of use the entire mix to null sounds you don't want to trigger, to get the net , which is what you want trigger.
Any advice on settings on how to get the most sensitivity out of trigger for snare ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 12:38:44 GMT -6
I don't care what anyone says, replacing drums is never a final product. I generally want the real snare to make up at least half of the balance with the samples reinforcing the accents on rolls. Each are processed different and together. Copy the snare to a new track, strip silence/gate, put Trigger over that and blend it in. I like to bus both of them together and use a distressor on all of them, and EQ the whole thing further, really helps to glue it all together for me.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 4, 2016 13:08:50 GMT -6
Yes that is a good point how to mix so the sample sounds integral not artificial.
I have been comparing the 100 dry to wet signal and the settings to see how true to the original snare, I can get the trigger output.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 13:40:14 GMT -6
If you're using the Slate Samples, I'd guess they're not even remotely in the right ballpark. My experience with them has been that they sound like plastic but I've used some others from Room Sound and iwantthatsound.com and I've had some pretty decent results. I've only recently started using trigger this way and it's on a live set so it's hard to tell what I can get away with in a proper mix.
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Post by tasteliketape on Apr 4, 2016 13:46:44 GMT -6
Noah Shain posted some of his samples for free download the thread is (a Drum replacement samples)
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Post by ragan on Apr 4, 2016 14:21:51 GMT -6
Hey, I am demoing slate trigger 2 and having a good experience. I have slate ssd so was more interested in how trigger works as an engine as I know the samples. It is certainly cool how you can just drop in a very well recorded sample, say kick, right into your mix: as I record in a basement 10x20 room this is a feature of trigger I appreciate. In my current mix, I have some nice soft rolls into fils and turnarounds and ghost notes on the snare, when I trigger the snare I am certainly losing some of this. I know you can put trigger on an aux and sort of use the entire mix to null sounds you don't want to trigger, to get the net , which is what you want trigger. Any advice on settings on how to get the most sensitivity out of trigger for snare ? Duplicate the snare track and put a 100% wet Trigger on the dup. Then play with the Sensitivity, Detail,Re-Trigger, Range and Dynamics settings until the feel is sounding decent. Then blend that in with the real snare track. If you get the sensitivity low enough (on the Trigger track) to get the soft/ghosty stuff it's possible you'll get toms or kick keying it. Try the built in gate first. It's hands down the best gate I've ever heard (which is why people have been clamouring for it as a standalone for years). You can also send the toms or kick to a bus and tell Trigger not to react to that bus, which is really handy if your close mics have a lot of the other drums in them. The only Slate samples I like are some of the Blackbird stuff. The rest is, to me, not good. The advantage though is their samples have great dynamics. I've gotten some really complicated snare stuff to mirror perfectly with Slate samples (with a lot of tweaking of the parameters). Only problem is I hate the sounds of most of the Slate stuff. The Blackbird definitely sounds more like real drums. Some of it is very good. That said, I almost always use hits I've recorded myself. Just reinforcing the main kick and snare pattern and not trying to use Trigger for any real nuance. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 4, 2016 17:31:22 GMT -6
Thx Ragan, your last sentence is really where I am with this. The drummer I hired, Matt Aston plays well and I like his stye but as I recorded in the basement and the snare track too hot I am , just experimenting with trigger to bring more articulation to the kick and snare but to finesse this into the mix, if possibe. Oh so, when do the Ragan and Ragonettes drum pack get released ? I hear you nailed that Seattle snare sound  And what with all the time you spend talking to trees I can't wait to hear your bare trees samples |
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 4, 2016 17:31:58 GMT -6
Noah Shain posted some of his samples for free download the thread is (a Drum replacement samples) yup got em thx ! |
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And what with all the time you spend talking to trees I can't wait to hear your bare trees samples