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Post by mulmany on Oct 27, 2013 21:53:39 GMT -6
I have done some looking and have not seen any mods for the Hafler p3000. Anyone know of any? It has got me though the last 6 years, but looking to change things up, not sure if it was really the best choice.
I dont have enough for new monitors, so looking at amp options. Running alesis monitor two's and yamaha hs50m's. They get the job done and I know the monitor two's really well since I have had them for 14 years.
Thanks
patrick
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 27, 2013 23:16:42 GMT -6
hey Patrick, i don't know about the hafler, but for around $400 you could get an adcom gfa555 w/jim williams mods, sounds unreal.
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Post by svart on Oct 28, 2013 12:22:42 GMT -6
My question is, do you *need* to upgrade? You say it gets the job done, and you know the monitors well. Is your end product good enough, or do you find yourself still having problems?
If your answer is that you only want to upgrade because you *think* it would be better, then I'd say that you don't really need to upgrade. To anyone who knows their gear well enough to produce a quality product, I would always suggest that they don't change anything. It's always better to know what you have and use it well, than to change it and always wonder if it's better or worse.
I used to be like Tony is now, always wanting to upgrade stuff, but at least in my case, I always failed to be impressed enough to stop. That was mainly because I lost my sense of necessity vs. expectation. My expectations were never met, so I kept changing stuff and eventually lost the ear for what actually sounded good.
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 28, 2013 13:08:56 GMT -6
^ Friend or Foe? Man Svart, your like trying to figure out if Racer X is a hero or villain lol. Good enough is not why we're here broman?? if it works for you, great. I on the other hand, have enjoyed leaps and bounds of improvements in my rig through DIY, mics, pre's, imaging and depth improvements in ADDA, lower noise floors, larger dynamic ranges.. just to name a few... The higher fi my monitoring system becomes, the greater the enjoyment, less ear fatigue and more details are revealed to me wether tracking or mixing. Settling is not an option for me with anything in my life, it's what makes life worth living IMO, i will strive to improve upon my system until i hear exactly what i want, where that ends? nobody knows. In the meantime, it's one of the most enjoyable journeys i've ever taken 8) Please stop being such a Debbie Downer on those of us who ARE into this, it's fun, why you wanna ruin fun?! that being said, please keep being as informative as you've been with you tech suggestions, as they've shown you really know your shit.
you know by your assertion, if it runs, you could always get in your cougar and drive from point A to point B without doing a thing to it, good enough? It's about many subtle performance increases adding up to a badass ride my friend
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Post by cenafria on Oct 28, 2013 13:39:41 GMT -6
I think I get where Svart is coming from (Patrick, sorry for continuing with the off topic topic) Technique over gear. I love gear as much as the next guy but it be great to see more discussion about technique. I know, I know... The board is about gear : ) I've seen guys cut a mediocre (soundwise) vocal track with a c12, vintage 1073 and vintage 1176 rev d in a great room, everything working fine. I honestly believe that, at the end of the day, it's technique and experience that makes the difference. And yes, mediocre gear will limit you to a certain point.
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Post by svart on Oct 28, 2013 14:12:16 GMT -6
Hey, I just want what's best for the OP. Wondering about upgrading through modification isn't the same as *needing* to fix a problem. If he can save his money and put that somewhere else he might need it more, then I'm all for it. If there is a problem that needs addressing, I'm all for modifying in an attempt to upgrade.
I'd say that if you can't find people already upgrading something on the internet, then it's possible it's not worth the time.
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Post by mulmany on Oct 28, 2013 19:14:38 GMT -6
Thanks Guys!
I do feel that I am missing something in the monitors and I am certain that it is partially in the amplification. I use to run a different amp that had nice clarity but lacked the power needed to really drive the monitors. I have learned to look past this lack and still provide a good mix, but it is always nagging me. I have been doing a lot more mixing only lately, so the lack has been more evident.
Svart, I think you are right about the lack of mod info on the net and it maybe not be an easy design to actually improve.
Thanks
Patrick
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 28, 2013 21:10:54 GMT -6
i can tell you, getting rid of a sub par amp, and hooking up the adcom, it sounded like someone took a blanket off the monitors, and I started hearing things i never heard before, that was back in the day, before i got the mod, now with the mod, it's the same thing all over. I know the "blanket" thing has been said too many times, but it's totally true, and for the price of admission, probably worth it to find out..No?
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Post by mulmany on Oct 28, 2013 21:39:22 GMT -6
How much is the mod, Tony? I also have a Yamaha P-2200M that I was going to borrow and see if I hear a difference.
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Post by mulmany on Oct 28, 2013 21:59:56 GMT -6
sorry its a PC2002M. I am going to try a few amps out and see how I feel about it.
Thanks for all the help.
If anyone does come across a mod for the newer Transnova series Haflers let me know.
Patrick
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 28, 2013 22:53:56 GMT -6
How much is the mod, Tony? I also have a Yamaha P-2200M that I was going to borrow and see if I hear a difference. I picked up an adcom gfa555 pro(balanced ins and trimmable) for $200, the williams mod is about $200 |
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Post by svart on Oct 29, 2013 6:37:45 GMT -6
I think for most passive monitors, using an amp that is grossly overpowered is a good thing. Use heavy gauge cables too. You want to be able to reproduce transients, but those take large amounts of instant current that only a high powered amp can provide.
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