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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 1:42:31 GMT -6
Hey guys,
That drum sample thread got me thinking and to be honest I can't think of a lot of work I've done over the past few years where it's been a situation where I've reinforced drums. I can obviously see the benefits of stacking sounds to create depth and punch and I have Trigger but my biggest issue with it has always been phase. In the editor I find it's at it's worst, on an aux I still experience the same thing. Are you guys going through stuff by hand and fixing it after the fact or is there a method of reinforcing drums that I'm just overlooking?
Hope everyone is well over here, thanks John for keeping the place!
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Post by noah shain on Mar 8, 2016 1:40:17 GMT -6
I still use good old sound replacer (audio suite) to print a track and then treat It like any other mic.
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Post by bluenoise on Mar 8, 2016 6:48:25 GMT -6
I still use good old sound replacer (audio suite) to print a track and then treat It like any other mic. Same here, except i use massey drt.
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Post by Ward on Mar 8, 2016 8:14:53 GMT -6
2 by 4 braces and duct tape, mostly.
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Post by svart on Mar 8, 2016 10:03:50 GMT -6
Lots of small amounts of compression, some of it parallel. The small distortions from compression and from the small delay of the bussing make it sound a lot more full that way.
If needed, the kick and/or toms get RBass on them.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 8, 2016 10:06:39 GMT -6
Try blending in a parallel channel that is slammed ABI with an 1176. Man, talk about reinforcing...
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Post by jsteiger on Mar 8, 2016 10:11:02 GMT -6
Try blending in a parallel channel that is slammed ABI with an 1176. Man, talk about reinforcing... I think you mean an FC526. Cough, cough.....
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Post by Ward on Mar 8, 2016 10:47:56 GMT -6
Try blending in a parallel channel that is slammed ABI with an 1176. Man, talk about reinforcing... I think you mean an FC526. Cough, cough..... I think you misspelled API2500...
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 8, 2016 11:17:09 GMT -6
Try blending in a parallel channel that is slammed ABI with an 1176. Man, talk about reinforcing... I think you mean an FC526. Cough, cough..... Ha! Touche! Well, I was referring to ITB UAD1176 that you can crush until it sounds like a bag of razorblades...I'm not sure the FC526 can sound that bad to be honest. I need to try!
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 8, 2016 11:18:42 GMT -6
BTW, jsteiger...just using the 526 on bass yesterday...slowest attack and release...unfreakingbelievable.
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Post by jsteiger on Mar 8, 2016 11:40:41 GMT -6
I think you mean an FC526. Cough, cough..... I think you misspelled API2500... The topology is very different. VCA vs FET. Discrete opamps and transformers are a commonality though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 1:38:35 GMT -6
Lots of small amounts of compression, some of it parallel. The small distortions from compression and from the small delay of the bussing make it sound a lot more full that way. If needed, the kick and/or toms get RBass on them. I love Rbass on toms!
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Post by rocinante on Mar 9, 2016 9:11:34 GMT -6
I split my kick and snare with dbx 160s and my toms and oh's get parralel compression from the 1176. Often it all gets a light buss compression (sometimes in parallel) afterwards. A neat little trick my mentor taught me was while tracking tune the kick to the 12th harmonic low e (or whatever your tuned to) of the bass. It gives it all a natural glue.
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Post by jazznoise on Mar 10, 2016 9:47:50 GMT -6
Room mics left fairly clean - just some slow attack, fast release compression doing a few dB. Sometimes none. Overheads about the same. Close mics have judicious automation and limiting.
I'm more of a tuning, mic choice and mic positioning guy. I think my days of 57's on toms are over, made a huge different to just ditch them.
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Post by Ward on Mar 10, 2016 11:44:20 GMT -6
Crush the hell out of room mics.
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Post by EmRR on Mar 10, 2016 12:03:00 GMT -6
butt mic smashed up. or 1932 band-limited condenser mic out front, does it's own smooth compression fat midrange thing.
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