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Post by btreim on Oct 24, 2013 12:19:51 GMT -6
How would you do it with a head/cab? Combo amp?
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Post by svart on Oct 24, 2013 13:01:55 GMT -6
Some kind of active buffer on the guitar end would be necessary. Maybe an EQ pedal to boost the highs a little to account for the loss over distance (pre-emphasis).
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If you meant between the head and the cabinet, just giving a little more high end boost would probably work OK. Just make sure the cable gauge is heavy so you don't have series impedance losses.
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Post by btreim on Oct 24, 2013 13:24:18 GMT -6
How about a 2 for 1 combo with a Boss EQ pedal? For some reason, I'm thinking a lot of the Boss pedals have buffers.
And I'm talking about both setups.
Would it be worth it to do an active DI on the guitar end, and bring it back with a passive DI once it gets to the amp?
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Post by jazznoise on Nov 18, 2013 13:59:06 GMT -6
Into guitar pedals > Active DI > Balanced XLR > Passive DI/Balanced Summer (Anything that will sum balanced signals) > Guitar amp. High end loss is possible but a proper balanced system should keep the high end clean for at least 200 feet.
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Post by cenafria on Nov 19, 2013 9:42:23 GMT -6
We use this from time to time. It works pretty well. We also have speaker cable from control room to live room and even long runs of George L's cable. Certain guitarists prefer certain solutions. In any case, the STD would work for what you need. The unit needs to have fresh batteries to work well, so unplug when not in use. |
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Post by jazznoise on Nov 19, 2013 11:33:45 GMT -6
We use this from time to time. It works pretty well. We also have speaker cable from control room to live room and even long runs of George L's cable. Certain guitarists prefer certain solutions. In any case, the STD would work for what you need. The unit needs to have fresh batteries to work well, so unplug when not in use. Not to mock but "Single transistor buffer technology" is some of the worst marketing I've ever heard. But this too is a fine solution. |
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Post by cenafria on Nov 20, 2013 9:18:56 GMT -6
We use this from time to time. It works pretty well. We also have speaker cable from control room to live room and even long runs of George L's cable. Certain guitarists prefer certain solutions. In any case, the STD would work for what you need. The unit needs to have fresh batteries to work well, so unplug when not in use. Not to mock but "Single transistor buffer technology" is some of the worst marketing I've ever heard. But this too is a fine solution. Possibly a little tongue in cheek... The Little labs stuff I've used sounded great. Not cheap though. |
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Post by jimwilliams on Jan 23, 2014 11:31:27 GMT -6
Must go active. All my guitars are and can drive 2000' cables without losses. Best if installed in the instrument before external losses kick in. That way the tone control roll-offs and volume pot loading can be avoided. You can get acoustic guitar zone harmonics if done that way.
Or use an external buffer box and put that in your pocket. Run a 1 foot cable to it.
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Post by svart on Jan 23, 2014 13:40:28 GMT -6
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Post by drbill on Jan 25, 2014 17:43:02 GMT -6
Little Labs STD works great here. Guitarists notice no change in tone or amp "feel".
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Post by Ward on Jan 28, 2014 23:02:45 GMT -6
Could you not run a long speaker cable instead? It'll have a less detrimental effect on the tone.
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Post by Ward on Jan 28, 2014 23:04:30 GMT -6
Let me qualify that a bit better... Use a 20' or less guitar cable into the head and run a long speaker cabinet from the head to the speaker. For example, if you want the guitarist in the control room and the amp out in the studio, use a tie line into the speaker cabling and keep the head in the control room with you.
Does that make better sense?
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Post by awtac on Mar 21, 2014 5:12:55 GMT -6
100 feet of low cap cable like george L can definitely be equivalent to some common 20 ft guitar mart cable. Depending upon what you are used to, the solution for this need not be elaborate at all...
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Post by Koln on Mar 22, 2014 10:18:18 GMT -6
75' isn't that long. Just use quality soldered cables (a must) and buffered pedals (at input and output of your pedal board) and you should be good. Boss pedals are good enough for this.
If you want to invest in your rig you should consider Pete Cornish line drivers.
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Post by btreim on Mar 25, 2014 15:27:10 GMT -6
Thanks for all the replies fellas.
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