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Post by rowmat on Jun 7, 2016 0:13:25 GMT -6
If you're going big, I think the best choice is still after all this time, a Marshall. Go get it bro! If I was going for more watts for myself, I'd look at a Matchless or Bad Cat. My friend has a 30 watt Bad Cat that can wake the dead. There's probably a fuzz pedal here, but if I was playing some bigger halls or playing with a bad ass R&R group, I'd want to sound something like this. Skip to 1:30. Saw Lucinda Williams about twenty years back here in Melbourne. Gerf Morlix was playing a Silvertone through a pair of Fender Twin Reverbs. Wasn't bad ass aggressive as such but was one of the best guitar sounds I've heard. Big but not muddy, punchy in the mids but never harsh on the ears. Still remember it after all these years. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 7, 2016 7:34:45 GMT -6
Doug Pettibone is the guitarist on this track. If I had to guess, I'd say it was a Matchless amp though.
Personally, I hate Twin Reverbs. The two speaker combo's never worked for my taste. I prefer 1 speaker or 4. I had a 50w. Marshall combo in the 70's, with two 12" Celestials, that thing could never be turned up past 3.5, and even when cranked, it never broke up sweetly. There weren't any really any good gain or distortion pedals then. I'd take a blackface 60's Super Reverb or a Louis Electric Princetone over any Fender with two speakers. I'd also rather have a 15w 1X12" speaker than 30W. 2 X 12", but that's just me. If it sounds good, who cares.
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Post by EmRR on Jun 7, 2016 8:22:17 GMT -6
Electro-Voice 654A, nice omni dynamic.
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Post by dandeurloo on Jun 8, 2016 13:38:42 GMT -6
Eveintide 3500, MXR dual Limiter, KM140 pair (with additional 150 capsules), km53 and a sm7. I think that is all the recent purchases besides a nice wood stove and couch for the house!
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Post by ericn on Jun 8, 2016 15:33:12 GMT -6
Eveintide 3500, MXR dual Limiter, KM140 pair (with additional 150 capsules), km53 and a sm7. I think that is all the recent purchases besides a nice wood stove and couch for the house! Eventide 3000/3500 is still to my ears the vocal sound of the late 80's / 90's pop! Have fun with the MXR, I never have had a chance to work with one that worked correctly! |
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Post by dandeurloo on Jun 8, 2016 22:14:30 GMT -6
ericn what did the MXR not do correctly? I still need to plug it in and test it. It looks like a strong candidate for a mod. I haven't heard a PWM compressor I didn't like so I had to try this one as well. I will let you know how it works and sounds.
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Post by ericn on Jun 9, 2016 8:28:31 GMT -6
ericn what did the MXR not do correctly? I still need to plug it in and test it. It looks like a strong candidate for a mod. I haven't heard a PWM compressor I didn't like so I had to try this one as well. I will let you know how it works and sounds. Dan everybody told me these were a must here, the bargain of the century, well every time I walked into a room and see one I just had to hear them and they were either DOA, great at producing hiss or doing a great impression of a distortion pedal. I do believe this had more to do with the owners lack of any tech skills rather than the unit. MXR had a reputation of great products low price, but in the late 80's early 90's I always found MXR in the racks of those who didn't have nor care to have a a good tech! I can't wait to hear some samples of yours ! |
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Post by sean on Jun 9, 2016 12:25:30 GMT -6
I need to spend some time with a Cub III, I have a Goodsell Super 17 MK IV which is a great little amp but I'm not a fan of the reverb. Maybe the Bad Cat is better. Or maybe I'm spoiled by my Swart
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Post by Ward on Jun 9, 2016 21:51:48 GMT -6
Electro-Voice 654A, nice omni dynamic. 1977 Radioshack dictation cassette deck mic with the pause button on it. Remove the pause button, convert output to a 1/4" and run it into a DI box. Sounds very similar. |
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Post by EmRR on Jun 9, 2016 23:53:40 GMT -6
Nah, 654A is far better.
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Post by wiz on Jun 10, 2016 2:13:14 GMT -6
Rode NTR
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Post by rowmat on Jun 10, 2016 3:08:56 GMT -6
Have had pair for about a year. IMO they fall somewhere in between a typical ribbon and a LDC. Smoother than most LCD's but don't need as much hi-end boost as a ribbon. Maybe kind of heading into M49 territory just a little... I did say "little". |
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Post by Ward on Jun 11, 2016 11:39:04 GMT -6
Have had pair for about a year. IMO they fall somewhere in between a typical ribbon and a LDC. Smoother than most LCD's but don't need as much hi-end boost as a ribbon. Maybe kind of heading into M49 territory just a little... I did say "little". Nonsense. They don't "bark when bitten" like an M49 does. See the other thread here on the M49 with the link to the Norah Jones song for an audio example of what that is. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 11, 2016 13:29:18 GMT -6
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Post by rowmat on Jun 12, 2016 1:22:32 GMT -6
Have had pair for about a year. IMO they fall somewhere in between a typical ribbon and a LDC. Smoother than most LCD's but don't need as much hi-end boost as a ribbon. Maybe kind of heading into M49 territory just a little... I did say "little". Nonsense. They don't "bark when bitten" like an M49 does. See the other thread here on the M49 with the link to the Norah Jones song for an audio example of what that is. I haven't bitten mine yet!  |
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Post by Ward on Jun 12, 2016 6:37:26 GMT -6
I'll be amazed if anyone can make a Rode mic of any sort sound like an M49, so go ahead and amaze me, please.
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Post by indiehouse on Jun 12, 2016 14:03:33 GMT -6
I picked up this Serpent Splice 500 last week. Having problems with it, though. No/low output set to 100% wet.  |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 12, 2016 14:14:57 GMT -6
Sean, the Cub III is incredible. My Bad Cat Bobcat is cool for playing at home, but the Cub is different, better, and amazing. That said, if you really want the best reverb sound there is, go to Louis Electric's "Columbia", formerly known as the Princetone, I never heard anything better ever. This guy's obnoxious, but hang in there and listen:
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 12, 2016 14:28:17 GMT -6
Ward, I know this sounds crazy, but bear with me. I got an email with a link to a plugin made for a Guage microphone. Guage is a company that sells inexpensive Chinese mic clones. They're actually not bad, good for a few things. The plugin was called Mic Clone, and it had emulations of a M49, U87, U67, U47, C12, 414 U47 FET, AND C800. It was designed with the Guage in mind from what I've gathered. I bought the plugin for $24, just for fun. I tried it on my Blackspade UM-18R, the Soyuz 0-19 FET, and the new Avantone CV-95 tube condenser, (based on the Soundelux 195). My mic and the Soyuz sell for 2 G's, the Avantone, $600. The Mic Clone didn't do anything for the Blackspade, (it already is generally in the Neumann style), or the Soyuz, but man, on the Avantone, damn if the M49 plugin didn't sound quite like an M49! The other mic emulations seemed less like the real thing, too much compression on some, but the M49 emulation is worth 5X the cost of the plug. So, you might in fact "be amazed" for $24 !! :-) What appealed to me about the plugin was that Slate has touted their mic emulations as the future of microphones, with a proprietary mic, preamp and plugins. I've wondered what their emulations would sound like as plugins, without the rest of the package. So at $976 less than the Slate system, I got to see if it might work. I think the Mic Clone could work here and there on an occasional track or two. I'd have to have the Slate system here to know if it's viable. www.finalmix.biz/Final_Mix_Software/Home.html |
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Post by Ward on Jun 12, 2016 16:34:11 GMT -6
Martin John Butler Very curious indeed... cheap chinese crap microphone + this plug in = decent emulation? I gotta hear this. I've actually got one of those MXL 67 microphones in the locker that showed up in a batch buy (and has collected dust ever since). So Do you think that will work with this software?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 12, 2016 20:58:37 GMT -6
It's really worth a shot for $24. I think it's one of those things that might just help a track or two just a little occasionally, but a little can be a lot if a part that was bugging you is improved enough to stop bugging you. It will be a godsend for people who really only have one of those $100 mics.
I think I trashed the tracks Ward, or I'd post a "with and without" for you. I'll take a look.
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Post by c0rtland on Jun 12, 2016 21:45:49 GMT -6
1966 b15n
Re-201 space eecchhoo so fresh it still has the factory plastic wrap on the knobs. Thanks reverb!
Rca 77 dx
Another Ampex 601
Telefunken d19
Fluke
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Post by Guitar on Jun 13, 2016 8:16:53 GMT -6
Sean, the Cub III is incredible. My Bad Cat Bobcat is cool for playing at home, but the Cub is different, better, and amazing. That said, if you really want the best reverb sound there is, go to Louis Electric's "Columbia", formerly known as the Princetone, I never heard anything better ever. This guy's obnoxious, but hang in there and listen: Wow, what a killer amp. That is like, my dream amp. I love a 1x12 and I love a Fender 6V6 power section. It's like a champ that you could actually gig with. I wonder how you would choose between this one and a "Deluxe." |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 13, 2016 8:34:44 GMT -6
Depends on where you're playing, headroom matters live in a big club. I'd take the Colombia and just mic it.
My little 5 Watt Bad Cat is based on the 57' fender circuit, so it's not too far of that amp, but the Louis Electric is clearly something special.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 13, 2016 8:47:26 GMT -6
Depends on where you're playing, headroom matters live in a big club. I'd take the Colombia and just mic it. My little 5 Watt Bad Cat is based on the 57' fender circuit, so it's not too far of that amp, but the Louis Electric is clearly something special. My Silvertone 1484 used to run out of headroom at louder gigs so I know what you mean. That is about a 20 watt amp. 30 or 40 watts seems like a versatile zone. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 13, 2016 8:54:43 GMT -6
Those Fender reissue 68 Custom Princetons are great...prob get one used for $600.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 13, 2016 9:48:44 GMT -6
Man, that's a good price for that amp if they did it right John.
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Post by dandeurloo on Jun 13, 2016 22:15:26 GMT -6
Dan everybody told me these were a must here, the bargain of the century, well every time I walked into a room and see one I just had to hear them and they were either DOA, great at producing hiss or doing a great impression of a distortion pedal. I do believe this had more to do with the owners lack of any tech skills rather than the unit. MXR had a reputation of great products low price, but in the late 80's early 90's I always found MXR in the racks of those who didn't have nor care to have a a good tech! I can't wait to hear some samples of yours ! I messed with my MXR 136 all day today. Mine worked correctly when I turned it on! It sounded ok, like a really ok 200 usd compressor. A little bandwidth limited and thick sounding from old slow opamps and weak PSU. Not the thick sound that I like. Sadly, it was nothing that excited me. So, I decided to dig into it. I only know of 3 other PWM comps (STC 8, PYE and the PWM 501) and I LOVE all of them. So I had hoped that this would be cool either stock or with a little tweaking... I started tweaking. I tried a number of different things while listening to the effect it had on the sound at each tweak. In the end, I beef'd up the PSU massively, changing out the 5534's and tl072 in the audio path, pulling some caps in the audio path and changing a few. I ended up swapping in some high end IC's in 3 of the stages and put a Red Dot on the input stage in place of one of the 5534. Now the comp has excitement and some really cool smack. The bandwidth is wider and more musical and the tone has a nice "push" sound to it. It also has a thick sound I like, mostly from the PWM circuit and the compression sound. I will live with it like this for a while and see how I get along with it. I can widen the bandwidth more along with making the overall sound smoother, but I have a bunch of comps like that already so I think I will like the smack sound. I wanted this comp for some interesting color. It will probably be great on individual drums, drum groups or drum rooms. If I don't end up liking the push/smack sound I am getting, I can easily change a few things and get a smoother sound that would be more useful for more things. LONG LIVE PWM COMPS! |
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Post by dandeurloo on Jun 13, 2016 22:17:49 GMT -6
1966 b15n Re-201 space eecchhoo so fresh it still has the factory plastic wrap on the knobs. Thanks reverb! Rca 77 dx Another Ampex 601 Telefunken d19 Fluke Space echo's rule, I love RCA ribbon, the D19 is great on acoustic and I love my Fluke. I have a pair of 601's I still need to bring back to life. Tell me what you use yours on and how they sound? |
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Post by c0rtland on Jun 14, 2016 0:46:59 GMT -6
1966 b15n Re-201 space eecchhoo so fresh it still has the factory plastic wrap on the knobs. Thanks reverb! Rca 77 dx Another Ampex 601 Telefunken d19 Fluke Space echo's rule, I love RCA ribbon, the D19 is great on acoustic and I love my Fluke. I have a pair of 601's I still need to bring back to life. Tell me what you use yours on and how they sound? Sounds like we have similar tastes! Unfortunately, to be honest I have yet to hear my 601's. I became interested in them lately because of a local here paul mahern. He records entire albums with one. I really enjoy ribbons mics and supposedly it's a good match for them. We shall see. I got both of them for (relatively) cheap on eBay. One has the tape machine and the other does not. They both need work and both have power cords that need replaced. I'm about to send them to christian ruggiero for work. He did a bang up job on my 1567a and specializes in tube gear. He was referred to me by Thomas gruning. I found this website on the net as well. It has some educational info that I will be basing my refurb/mod requests from. fixthatmix.com/ampex601.phpHow do you like the 601? |
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