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Post by Ward on Sept 3, 2024 10:15:34 GMT -6
It's true that you can now. It used to not be as nice as Avid really bent you over to reinstate (I think it was $599?). Now I think it might be $299, which is less than 2 years of renewal/updates... so next year I may go that route (depending on how stable everything is). if i wasn't such a PT beeitch i'd learn Logic, i actually purchased a copy and haven't even opened it yet🤦🏻♂️ I work in both. 99% pro tools but logic does some AMAZING things/tricks that PT can't do without a lot of 3rd party stuff...and even then not as well! And whoever at Apple had the wisdom to afford the Logic team 'Carte Blanche' was also a genius. |
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Post by chessparov on Sept 3, 2024 11:44:56 GMT -6
And on a Streetcar?
(Named "Desire")
Chris
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Post by drumsound on Sept 3, 2024 11:47:52 GMT -6
if i wasn't such a PT beeitch i'd learn Logic, i actually purchased a copy and haven't even opened it yet🤦🏻♂️ I work in both. 99% pro tools but logic does some AMAZING things/tricks that PT can't do without a lot of 3rd party stuff...and even then not as well! And whoever at Apple had the wisdom to afford the Logic team 'Carte Blanche' was also a genius. What things are those, Ward? I know so little about Logic. |
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Post by sean on Sept 3, 2024 14:28:07 GMT -6
Rogers Dyna-Sonic 5x14” brass snare and a replacement spring reverb tank for a Tapco 4400.
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Post by robo on Sept 3, 2024 15:58:26 GMT -6
I work in both. 99% pro tools but logic does some AMAZING things/tricks that PT can't do without a lot of 3rd party stuff...and even then not as well! And whoever at Apple had the wisdom to afford the Logic team 'Carte Blanche' was also a genius. What things are those, Ward? I know so little about Logic. I’m not Ward, obvs, but Logic has excellent time/pitch stretching abilities. PT was always pretty horrendous at this. Reaper (main DAW) used to suck also so I’d import files into Logic just to process. Other than that, Logic has advanced built in surround capabilities, if you’re into that world. Great free plugins too. Terrible workflow and editing compared to PT or Reaper IMO. |
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Post by drumsound on Sept 3, 2024 17:26:55 GMT -6
Rogers Dyna-Sonic 5x14” brass snare and a replacement spring reverb tank for a Tapco 4400. Niiiiiiice What things are those, Ward? I know so little about Logic. I’m not Ward, obvs, but Logic has excellent time/pitch stretching abilities. PT was always pretty horrendous at this. Reaper (main DAW) used to suck also so I’d import files into Logic just to process. Other than that, Logic has advanced built in surround capabilities, if you’re into that world. Great free plugins too. Terrible workflow and editing compared to PT or Reaper IMO. That's cool. I tried to get into elastic for a project a while ago. What a pain in my ass THAT was... Generally I'm good with ProTools, and also not a microedit type (maybe to mine and my clients detriment). |
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Post by doubledog on Sept 3, 2024 17:45:34 GMT -6
What things are those, Ward? I know so little about Logic. I’m not Ward, obvs, but Logic has excellent time/pitch stretching abilities. PT was always pretty horrendous at this. Reaper (main DAW) used to suck also so I’d import files into Logic just to process. Other than that, Logic has advanced built in surround capabilities, if you’re into that world. Great free plugins too. Terrible workflow and editing compared to PT or Reaper IMO. I think PT has gotten a lot better at stretching than it used to be (it was still pretty horrible a couple years ago) but I've used it a few times recently where I was completely surprised that it worked like it did. It always depends on the source content, but I've tried it a few more times and it worked again, so definitely better than it was. and if that doesn't work then I go to other tools (Melodyne/VocAlign. etc) or tell the band we have to do it again... |
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 3, 2024 19:10:01 GMT -6
I work in both. 99% pro tools but logic does some AMAZING things/tricks that PT can't do without a lot of 3rd party stuff...and even then not as well! And whoever at Apple had the wisdom to afford the Logic team 'Carte Blanche' was also a genius. What things are those, Ward? I know so little about Logic. I actually opened up logic......, not so bad, i don't know what I was expecting? I enabled pro tools short cuts and it doesn't seem so daunting anymore, i think i'm gonna watch some toot vids and see what i can figure out, I'm not sure i want to get away from pro tools all together as the ecosystem is still pretty set and i have a lot of collaborators in PT, but i'd love to get comfy enough to be able to tell avid to F off if they try to screw us again Hey Ward, buddy, give me some specifics on the AMAZING things/tricks Logic can do |
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Post by recordingengineer on Sept 3, 2024 19:51:49 GMT -6
What things are those, Ward? I know so little about Logic. I actually opened up logic......, not so bad, i don't know what I was expecting? I enabled pro tools short cuts and it doesn't seem so daunting anymore, i think i'm gonna watch some toot vids and see what i can figure out, I'm not sure i want to get away from pro tools all together as the ecosystem is still pretty set and i have a lot of collaborators in PT, but i'd love to get comfy enough to be able to tell avid to F off if they try to screw us again Hey Ward, buddy, give me some specifics on the AMAZING things/tricks Logic can do My only concern would be latency. I’ve been spoiled with not ever thinking about it with PT HD since day 1. Do you get that HD benefit in Logic in 2024? |
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Post by the other mark williams on Sept 3, 2024 20:58:42 GMT -6
What things are those, Ward? I know so little about Logic. I actually opened up logic......, not so bad, i don't know what I was expecting? I enabled pro tools short cuts and it doesn't seem so daunting anymore, i think i'm gonna watch some toot vids and see what i can figure out, I'm not sure i want to get away from pro tools all together as the ecosystem is still pretty set and i have a lot of collaborators in PT, but i'd love to get comfy enough to be able to tell avid to F off if they try to screw us again Hey Ward, buddy, give me some specifics on the AMAZING things/tricks Logic can do Tony, you should check out “MusicTechHelpGuy” on YouTube. I think he’s a good Logic teacher - to the point, no rambling. |
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Post by ericn on Sept 3, 2024 21:47:50 GMT -6
I actually opened up logic......, not so bad, i don't know what I was expecting? I enabled pro tools short cuts and it doesn't seem so daunting anymore, i think i'm gonna watch some toot vids and see what i can figure out, I'm not sure i want to get away from pro tools all together as the ecosystem is still pretty set and i have a lot of collaborators in PT, but i'd love to get comfy enough to be able to tell avid to F off if they try to screw us again Hey Ward, buddy, give me some specifics on the AMAZING things/tricks Logic can do My only concern would be latency. I’ve been spoiled with not ever thinking about it with PT HD since day 1. Do you get that HD benefit in Logic in 2024? No, 30 years ago yes you could run Logic or DP on a PT 3 rig. |
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Post by Ward on Sept 4, 2024 6:15:47 GMT -6
What things are those, Ward? I know so little about Logic. I’m not Ward, obvs, but Logic has excellent time/pitch stretching abilities. PT was always pretty horrendous at this. Reaper (main DAW) used to suck also so I’d import files into Logic just to process. Other than that, Logic has advanced built in surround capabilities, if you’re into that world. Great free plugins too. Terrible workflow and editing compared to PT or Reaper IMO. you nailed it. Plus the VIs! |
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 4, 2024 8:46:04 GMT -6
I actually opened up logic......, not so bad, i don't know what I was expecting? I enabled pro tools short cuts and it doesn't seem so daunting anymore, i think i'm gonna watch some toot vids and see what i can figure out, I'm not sure i want to get away from pro tools all together as the ecosystem is still pretty set and i have a lot of collaborators in PT, but i'd love to get comfy enough to be able to tell avid to F off if they try to screw us again Hey Ward, buddy, give me some specifics on the AMAZING things/tricks Logic can do My only concern would be latency. I’ve been spoiled with not ever thinking about it with PT HD since day 1. Do you get that HD benefit in Logic in 2024? Take this with a grain of salt, i will test this myself in short, looks like with my lynx Aurora(n) tracking latency is as low as .7ms with TB3? Not sure if it's different on PT vs LP vs ? Correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe latency on PTHD with cards is .3ms? I personally can't FEEL anything below 1.3ms of tracking latency as a drummer with headphones Here's the purple site link gearspace.com/board/music-computers/618474-audio-interface-low-latency-performance-data-base.html |
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Post by chessparov on Sept 4, 2024 11:47:59 GMT -6
Nice AKG D770 on the way (under $60 total!) Cool for local live performance. Partly as it won't get mixed up with a House 57/58.  Great also for live studio recording. IMHO comparable to the ubiquitous SM7. (For around 1/5th the price used) Am going to shoot it out with my main D790. Might sound a hair cleaner/less popscreen. Chris P.S. A local best friend, is planning to teach me some basics of Logic. (Maybe the DAW too ) |
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Post by sean on Sept 6, 2024 5:49:18 GMT -6
Phoenix Audio Gyrator EQ. Never owned any of their products but been interested to try something for awhile
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Post by chessparov on Sept 6, 2024 9:21:22 GMT -6
Phoenix Audio Gyrator EQ. Never owned any of their products but been interested to try something for awhile I hope it'll fly! (After you give it a Whirl)  |
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Post by recordingengineer on Sept 6, 2024 9:37:31 GMT -6
Phoenix Audio Gyrator EQ. Never owned any of their products but been interested to try something for awhile Just used mine in 500-Series on bass last night! Mmm-so-good! |
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Post by sean on Sept 6, 2024 10:27:43 GMT -6
Phoenix Audio Gyrator EQ. Never owned any of their products but been interested to try something for awhile Just used mine in 500-Series on bass last night! Mmm-so-good! Nice! It has a few frequency choices that I find myself boosting and cutting a lot but aren’t really on a lot of EQs I have, and I’m trying to commit a bit more EQ “to tape” when I can. The fact that it’s stepped for easy recall in mixing was another big plus. It and the Iron Age Audioworks V2 are really the two EQs I’ve been most interested in I’ve never owned |
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Post by ab101 on Sept 6, 2024 11:07:13 GMT -6
The Iron Age V2 is amazing on bass, kick, snare, and more.
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Post by linas on Sept 6, 2024 13:16:48 GMT -6
Got the wires two days ago, still waiting for my monitor stands. Dell Precision will be fixed in around two-three weeks. Hopefully I'll able to play some tunes through Traktor
BTW, the knob on the monitor controller feels sooo smooth... Like butter!
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Post by jacobamerritt on Sept 6, 2024 13:31:05 GMT -6
Just used mine in 500-Series on bass last night! Mmm-so-good! Nice! It has a few frequency choices that I find myself boosting and cutting a lot but aren’t really on a lot of EQs I have, and I’m trying to commit a bit more EQ “to tape” when I can. The fact that it’s stepped for easy recall in mixing was another big plus. It and the Iron Age Audioworks V2 are really the two EQs I’ve been most interested in I’ve never owned I have 3 Phoenix DRS-Q4 Mk2s... Kind of the 'sidecar' foundation for my recordings. Subtly shaping with the EQs in tracking is so nice. Pre's are lovely. I can see them being useful for mastering too, on sterile recordings- especially with the stepped pots. One of the few things I'll never sell. |
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Post by lowlou on Sept 8, 2024 13:58:59 GMT -6
I snatched a Pendulum Audio PL-2 for a good price !
& I'm going cray-cray over old dynamic and FX microphones :
(2x) Akai M8 ADM-5 tape recorder microphones
E-V 365a
E-V RE11 with an E-V 342 neat mounting connector
Trash Talk Audio PP1 (NOS telephone microphone)
Telefunken M811 (rebranded Sennheiser MD-431)
Sennheiser MD-411
Telefunken TD-24
(2x) AKG D19c
Philips LBB9100/5 (rebrander AKG D119)
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Maybe E-V RE18
Maybe Sennheiser MD-421 II
Maybe Sennheiser MD-441
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Post by sean on Sept 8, 2024 15:29:31 GMT -6
I've been helping a friend with his estate and he had two broken DBX units that I decided to buy, a 160VU (pretty rough shape, plus the output and meter is messed up) and a 162 (no output on one side). After taking them to a local tech who said "I give up trying to figure these out" Jim Williams was willing to upgrade them and bring them back to life for me. I've always wanted to hear what he does with the 162 because I know he liked them more than the 160...I had to beg for him to take a look at the 160VU (he doesn't want to work on the old VCA can units anymore because they are ticking time bombs) but he brought back a pair of 161 and balanced them for me years ago and I sold those to Jamie Lidell who LOVES them...says they are the best sounding 160/161's he's ever used.
I also ordered some capstan oil for my Otari MTR-10's, Korneff Audio Micro Digital Reverberator, and the Cytomic The Scream plug in.
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Post by sean on Sept 8, 2024 21:48:39 GMT -6
Well, my wife was complaining about her rig with her band so I bought a Blackstar Saint James 6L6 combo that was used at a Guitar Center. I’ve heard them in the studio and was pretty impressed. There seems to be some love/hate with the Blackstar stuff but she needed something lightweight, loud enough for gigging, simple to use, with reverb, and a distortion channel (not a “pedal platform”) and it fit the bill perfectly. All the 1x12” Marshall, Orange, or Boogies are insanely heavy (or in the case of Boogies way too many knobs). I think she’ll dig it, and if not it easy to do returns at Guitar Center 😆
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Post by griffinpb on Sept 9, 2024 0:28:34 GMT -6
Hardware-wise, my most recent big purchases have been a pair of Samar MG20 microphones which have been working out great. They're on just about every session. Also picked up a defective Electro-Voice re1000 at a steep discount, perhaps one day I'll restore it. I've also got a Hohm HRP2 in my temporary possession to make some demo content with for Hohm. Excellent microphone, I own their HR02 and they're similar, but the HRP2 has a touch more finesse. Software wise I just grabbed the new Toneboosters EQ and PSP Saturator. Really enjoying them |
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