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Post by Ward on Jul 28, 2023 12:23:37 GMT -6
Wow! They look great. Who makes them? Chris Didn't Tim say they were made by NOS?
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Post by timcampbell on Jul 28, 2023 12:53:58 GMT -6
Wow! They look great. Who makes them? Chris Didn't Tim say they were made by NOS? Of course! Hahahahah
It is unbelievable that these capsules are more than 75 years old and still in great working condition. I was so lucky to find them. They will go to very good use in my U47's that currently have K47's in them.
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Post by Ward on Jul 28, 2023 14:11:00 GMT -6
Didn't Tim say they were made by NOS? Of course! Hahahahah
It is unbelievable that these capsules are more than 75 years old and still in great working condition. I was so lucky to find them. They will go to very good use in my U47's that currently have K47's in them.
As I very much prefer K47s to M7s, but yield to your greater knowledge and experience, I am keenly interested in the outcome and perhaps a comparison?
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Post by timcampbell on Jul 28, 2023 14:16:55 GMT -6
I will probably end up agreeing with you in the end Ward but I have to try these since by many they are considered the holy grail of U47 capsules. Maybe in the end they will end up on Reverb! haha
I have a spare headbasket with a CK12 capsule in it. On some things it is unbeatable
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jul 28, 2023 15:27:51 GMT -6
Stam SA 609, 87-T’s another Fatso EL7 to replace the jr one I sold for peanuts. 2 AKG 414’s & a 412 with good brass capsules. All bargains. Dangerous Liason. Another Brauner VM1 that sounds nothing like the other. Dirk will furnish me with a replacement first generation capsule as long as I send it back. I like the Haun so I have no choice but it seems Brauner are gearing up…., Curious what you dig the Fatso on. I've almost bought one several times.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 28, 2023 16:09:33 GMT -6
FWIW on me... Eric Heiserman said he'd definitely prefer the K47. Guess I'm returning my Ricky Nelson "Greatest Hits" now. Unless... It's too late. I still have a soft spot for the M7 though. It even sounds like a later Secret Service Boss for James Bond. All those mint boxes of VF-14's I found last April 1st, were all made by NOS too. I got them at a local University's garage and bake sale. On top of all the Studers and Neumann's they were going to throw out. Those VF-14's were manufactured with high degrees. To finally become graduated cylinders. Chris
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Post by Ward on Jul 28, 2023 17:34:06 GMT -6
SNIP I have a spare headbasket with a CK12 capsule in it. On some things it is unbeatable wait a second . . . a spare U47 head basket with one of your CK12s and it will actually work? If so, this is THE high point in my microphone journey. so far
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 28, 2023 17:53:14 GMT -6
Stam SA 609, 87-T’s another Fatso EL7 to replace the jr one I sold for peanuts. 2 AKG 414’s & a 412 with good brass capsules. All bargains. Dangerous Liason. Another Brauner VM1 that sounds nothing like the other. Dirk will furnish me with a replacement first generation capsule as long as I send it back. I like the Haun so I have no choice but it seems Brauner are gearing up…., Curious what you dig the Fatso on. I've almost bought one several times. I used to use it on my top end bus but now it’s gonna be another drum bus I imagine along with the 609, the Overstayers, the HG2, the LTLO etc. you can never have too many drum busses. Ha Ha.
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Post by Ward on Jul 28, 2023 18:06:11 GMT -6
Curious what you dig the Fatso on. I've almost bought one several times. I used to use it on my top end bus but now it’s gonna be another drum bus I imagine along with the 609, the Overstayers, the HG2, the LTLO etc. you can never have too many drum busses. Ha Ha. More than one drum buss? Why . . . that's crazy talk.
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Post by timcampbell on Jul 28, 2023 18:43:07 GMT -6
SNIP I have a spare headbasket with a CK12 capsule in it. On some things it is unbeatable wait a second . . . a spare U47 head basket with one of your CK12s and it will actually work? If so, this is THE high point in my microphone journey. so far It is actually an original 60's AKG CK12. I bought the U47 this way. A danish engineer used to go around putting CK12's in every Neumann mic because he preferred the sound. It sounded great but I got a second headbasket and K47 for authenticity. On Many things I still prefer the AKG headbasket.
With the right mount a CK12 works perfectly in a U47
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Post by Ward on Jul 30, 2023 13:50:09 GMT -6
wait a second . . . a spare U47 head basket with one of your CK12s and it will actually work? If so, this is THE high point in my microphone journey. so far It is actually an original 60's AKG CK12. I bought the U47 this way. A danish engineer used to go around putting CK12's in every Neumann mic because he preferred the sound. It sounded great but I got a second headbasket and K47 for authenticity. On Many things I still prefer the AKG headbasket. With the right mount a CK12 works perfectly in a U47
I would LOVE to have a CT12 equipped headbasket for my Heiserman H47 tube! Think it's possible for you to make?
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Post by sean on Jul 30, 2023 14:18:41 GMT -6
Bongos. Because the world needs more bongos in their music
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Post by ab101 on Jul 30, 2023 14:26:42 GMT -6
Bongos. Because the world needs more bongos in their music Baker Street.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 31, 2023 0:07:51 GMT -6
wait a second . . . a spare U47 head basket with one of your CK12s and it will actually work? If so, this is THE high point in my microphone journey. so far It is actually an original 60's AKG CK12. I bought the U47 this way. A danish engineer used to go around putting CK12's in every Neumann mic because he preferred the sound. It sounded great but I got a second headbasket and K47 for authenticity. On Many things I still prefer the AKG headbasket.
With the right mount a CK12 works perfectly in a U47
And with a left mount? Chris
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Post by Ward on Jul 31, 2023 6:40:57 GMT -6
Bongos. Because the world needs more bongos in their music Baker Street. And at the perfect mix position: almost inaudible and thus only slightly annoying
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Post by ninworks on Jul 31, 2023 7:33:40 GMT -6
I recently bought a new Steinway Model D piano sample library from EastWest. I already have their Bosendorfer 290 library and love it so I thought I'd get the Steinway too. Sometimes the Bosendorfer needs a little more Zing to cut through a dense mix so Steinway to the rescue. I needed to add to my second Terrabyte of sample libraries. Pianos are important.
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Post by longscale on Jul 31, 2023 8:35:57 GMT -6
I recently bought a new Steinway Model D piano sample library from EastWest. I already have their Bosendorfer 290 library and love it so I thought I'd get the Steinway too. Sometimes the Bosendorfer needs a little more Zing to cut through a dense mix so Steinway to the rescue. I needed to add to my second Terrabyte of sample libraries. Pianos are important. What are you using for a controller? I'd really like to find one that could convince my hands that I'm playing a real piano. This is not a cut on the quality of controllers vs real, it is a cut on my access to any that are good/higher quality...which has me interested in what others find enjoyable to use.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 31, 2023 8:43:44 GMT -6
And at the perfect mix position: almost inaudible and thus only slightly annoying At least they didn't butcher Baker. Chris
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Post by ninworks on Jul 31, 2023 9:34:44 GMT -6
I recently bought a new Steinway Model D piano sample library from EastWest. I already have their Bosendorfer 290 library and love it so I thought I'd get the Steinway too. Sometimes the Bosendorfer needs a little more Zing to cut through a dense mix so Steinway to the rescue. I needed to add to my second Terrabyte of sample libraries. Pianos are important. What are you using for a controller? I'd really like to find one that could convince my hands that I'm playing a real piano. This is not a cut on the quality of controllers vs real, it is a cut on my access to any that are good/higher quality...which has me interested in what others find enjoyable to use. I have an ancient Yamaha KX88 MIDI controller keyboard. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles as the newer stuff but most of that is more useful for live performance situations. I never do that so it's just fine for the studio. It looks just like a huge DX7. Built like a tank and just as heavy. There's no way I would ever gig with it. I also have my original mid 80's DX7 I use as a MIDI controller sometimes. I like the keyboard action on it. It works a lot better for programming drums than the weighted keys on the KX88. The key response is much faster and lighter. My keyboard chops suck after not playing hardly at all for the last 25 years, but I know how to do it. The sequencer lets me correct my mistakes so I can get it to work in the studio. I don't think you will ever find an electronic keyboard that "FEELS" like a real piano action. Weighted or not. I've never played one and I've played many. In order for it to feel like that it has to have the hammers and linkage it takes to manipulate them. I think you're better off just finding something you can live with and getting used to playing it.
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Post by earlevel on Jul 31, 2023 14:50:33 GMT -6
What are you using for a controller? I'd really like to find one that could convince my hands that I'm playing a real piano. This is not a cut on the quality of controllers vs real, it is a cut on my access to any that are good/higher quality...which has me interested in what others find enjoyable to use. I have an ancient Yamaha KX88 MIDI controller keyboard. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles as the newer stuff but most of that is more useful for live performance situations. I never do that so it's just fine for the studio. It looks just like a huge DX7. Built like a tank and just as heavy. There's no way I would ever gig with it. I also have my original mid 80's DX7 I use as a MIDI controller sometimes. I like the keyboard action on it. It works a lot better for programming drums than the weighted keys on the KX88. The key response is much faster and lighter. My keyboard chops suck after not playing hardly at all for the last 25 years, but I know how to do it. The sequencer lets me correct my mistakes so I can get it to work in the studio. I don't think you will ever find an electronic keyboard that "FEELS" like a real piano action. Weighted or not. I've never played one and I've played many. In order for it to feel like that it has to have the hammers and linkage it takes to manipulate them. I think you're better off just finding something you can live with and getting used to playing it. I think you're giving longscale a pretty bleak picture, maybe more than you intended, so I'll give my FWIW: The KX88 is not good, compared with what's available today, but as you say you find it useable. Obviously, since you said to find one you can live with and get used to it. Clearly, it's all a matter of degrees and what you're after, but you can get far closer, which means far less "getting used to it"—and a more nuanced performance (subtle control of velocity, etc.). I have a Yamaha P-515. I got used to it in...say the first hour. Is it the best "piano" (compared to acoustic) I've ever played? No. Is it better than many crappy pianos I've played? Easily. It's a little on the heavy side as opposed to light, but it's surprisingly fast (it seems to be loaded a little on the initial break of the key). IIRC, Nord Stage uses the same keyboard minus the escapement feature. For me, the number one feature—as far as accepting/tolerating the action—is key length. I like Casio, but (bless them), they've been on the kick of making pianos with the smallest possible depth. To me, they have become unplayable, even their very expensive compact piano that gets raves. Back to the point: Play a black key, if the back of the key doesn't drop appreciably in level, there will be problems playing challenging music. For a real piano, the black keys will nearly drop evenly across the length—because the keys are deep and therefore the angle remains shallow. For my P-515, the rear of the key drops about half the amount of the front. No ideal, but useable. A keyboard with short keys will scarcely drop at the back, because the pivot is so close. That means if you're playing a voicing that chokes you to the back to the key (white also), you'll have to play it hard to ensure it plays at all, and have very little control over tone. And that's about the best you can so for a stage-type portable piano—find one with good touch and features, and make sure the keys aren't too short. I haven't played the top-end Kawaii, I believe it's better still, but bigger, heavier, and quite a bit more expensive. Fortunately, even 50% of the way there is a hundred times better than 10%, and the Yamaha is far more of a "piano" experience than my older Casio (which didn't have quite as short of keys as the new ones do). The Casio seemed reasonable as a controller for a piano sample library, but the better keyboard of the P-515 gives a much more piano-like, expressive performance, a big step up. Of course, the consoles with full piano action are better still. But I think
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jul 31, 2023 15:34:23 GMT -6
I recently bought a new Steinway Model D piano sample library from EastWest. I already have their Bosendorfer 290 library and love it so I thought I'd get the Steinway too. Sometimes the Bosendorfer needs a little more Zing to cut through a dense mix so Steinway to the rescue. I needed to add to my second Terrabyte of sample libraries. Pianos are important. What are you using for a controller? I'd really like to find one that could convince my hands that I'm playing a real piano. This is not a cut on the quality of controllers vs real, it is a cut on my access to any that are good/higher quality...which has me interested in what others find enjoyable to use. I almost bought one of these. Kawai VPC1 Insanely accurate piano feel. Problem is it's almost as heavy as a real piano as well. Barely exaggerating. If I were to get a controller for my studio and had a big budget, this is what I would get. www.zzounds.com/item--KAWVPC1?siid=201879&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwt52mBhB5EiwA05YKo5GygKmzgDF33gXJ3MHFb1HEji1b-oA9TKmsZp7LLT8Nx8mKoW-DYhoCZYEQAvD_BwEBut what I actually got was a Kawai MP7. Excellent action. Not as great as the VCP1 but good enough that I hate playing other keyboards now. Plus the onboard acoustic piano sounds are quite good. www.guitarcenter.com/Kawai/MP7SE-88-Key-Professional-Stage-Piano-1500000177997.gc?cntry=us&source=4WWRWXGP
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Post by recordingengineer on Aug 1, 2023 1:05:31 GMT -6
My friend’s tube preamp prototype he’s been slowly developing and we’ve slowly been playing with has that! We’re getting together again tonight… Maybe he’ll finally let me get a picture at least! We're looking forward to the Pre view. Chris Well here’s finally a couple of unexciting pictures of the preamp. I honestly wouldn’t even call it a prototype; more like a development box that’s been changed and added to over the many years. In fact, it was originally thought for vertical orientation for an 8-channel modular-rack with a very-beefy external power supply. That was a good 10-15 years ago. The new latest thought is a 2U single-channel with power supply built-in. After this latest test, I’m truly fully into the 414 XLII in omni. On the SSL Duality is sounded really good on OH. Through John’s preamp, we both were floored… With how massive it sounded. I would have thought a compressor was on it! This was with Input Z at 30k. The 414 was probably dropping the phantom voltage to around 40V, but switching it to David Josephson’s proposed P48H, seemed to lock into 48V, but the 414 didn’t seem to care either way. It also could care less of the constant-current 10ma phantom-mode. In all the tests we’ve done over the past 15-years, some mics could care less with 10ma constant-current; other mics, it’s made a big difference. We still need to try it on a 103 again… That was definitely like putting the mic on steroids, but the unwanted side-effect was loud HF background hiss. Once we’re done with this preamp, we’ll explore that more. We’ve yet to blow up a mic, but we haven’t tried an Earthworks yet… They told us years ago it would though! drive.google.com/file/d/1eyenq3Sac3u6ciTWm5vKy_BOijs8IIuc/view?usp=drivesdkdrive.google.com/file/d/1qecRVuWdXKD-MBTnnrv3OY3cT-q0El8c/view?usp=drivesdk
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Post by Ward on Aug 1, 2023 7:39:15 GMT -6
We're looking forward to the Pre view. Chris Well here’s finally a couple of unexciting pictures of the preamp. I honestly wouldn’t even call it a prototype; more like a development box that’s been changed and added to over the many years. In fact, it was originally thought for vertical orientation for an 8-channel modular-rack with a very-beefy external power supply. That was a good 10-15 years ago. The new latest thought is a 2U single-channel with power supply built-in. After this latest test, I’m truly fully into the 414 XLII in omni. On the SSL Duality is sounded really good on OH. Through John’s preamp, we both were floored… With how massive it sounded. I would have thought a compressor was on it! This was with Input Z at 30k. The 414 was probably dropping the phantom voltage to around 40V, but switching it to David Josephson’s proposed P48H, seemed to lock into 48V, but the 414 didn’t seem to care either way. It also could care less of the constant-current 10ma phantom-mode. In all the tests we’ve done over the past 15-years, some mics could care less with 10ma constant-current; other mics, it’s made a big difference. We still need to try it on a 103 again… That was definitely like putting the mic on steroids, but the unwanted side-effect was loud HF background hiss. Once we’re done with this preamp, we’ll explore that more. We’ve yet to blow up a mic, but we haven’t tried an Earthworks yet… They told us years ago it would though! drive.google.com/file/d/1eyenq3Sac3u6ciTWm5vKy_BOijs8IIuc/view?usp=drivesdkdrive.google.com/file/d/1qecRVuWdXKD-MBTnnrv3OY3cT-q0El8c/view?usp=drivesdkLooks fantastic!! And I have a question . . . where did those knobs come from? They look like old EH knobs from the late 70s, and I'm missing a couple. Any idea where a fella might be able to buy a few of them?
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Post by recordingengineer on Aug 1, 2023 11:09:23 GMT -6
Looks fantastic!! And I have a question . . . where did those knobs come from? They look like old EH knobs from the late 70s, and I'm missing a couple. Any idea where a fella might be able to buy a few of them? They are EHC (Electronic Hardware Corporation) 3000 Series knobs. www.ehcknobs.com/index.php?id=3000Don’t miss the Distributor Stock Check link on the bottom left of every page. The quality is excellent! I had a little bag of them from many years ago, when I selected them for a custom console that was going to be made for me, but never came to fruition. We liked the look of them for the vertical 8-ch. preamp idea, but now with much more space on the 2U single-ch. horizontal approach, we can use much bigger knobs.
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Post by Ward on Aug 1, 2023 11:40:12 GMT -6
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