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Post by mrholmes on Feb 22, 2016 8:14:51 GMT -6
On many records you can hear that the SD is panned lightly to the right, very seldom to the left.
But why?
If there is plenty of space to pan it in the middle?
If I see a drummer right in front of me isn't the snare a center sound?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 22, 2016 8:16:43 GMT -6
On many records you can hear that the SD is panned lightly to the right, very seldom to the left. But why? If there is plenty of space to pan it in the middle? If I see a drummer right in front of me isn't the snare a center sound? If you're hearing the snare panned, it's probably caused by the overheads (or even more likely, hi hat mic) pulling the sound rather than actually panning the snare mic. |
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Post by mrholmes on Feb 22, 2016 10:05:27 GMT -6
On many records you can hear that the SD is panned lightly to the right, very seldom to the left. But why? If there is plenty of space to pan it in the middle? If I see a drummer right in front of me isn't the snare a center sound? If you're hearing the snare panned, it's probably caused by the overheads (or even more likely, hi hat mic) pulling the sound rather than actually panning the snare mic. Pulling is the better word yes its there and its light in the middle, it has no real place. See there I mix to many sample based drums... There isd nothing you can do about it? For example Vinie with Sting its dead center. How did they do it? Replacing it? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 11:48:09 GMT -6
Snare goes in the middle, if it's off to the side it's cause the overheads aren't placed on the centre axis of the kit.
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Post by mrholmes on Feb 22, 2016 12:11:40 GMT -6
Snare goes in the middle, if it's off to the side it's cause the overheads aren't placed on the centre axis of the kit. Stupid me its logical.... tssss |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 12:26:45 GMT -6
For me, kick goes center and snare slightly panned to the right.
That's how i hear it when i stand in front of it.
I have even heard of panning kick even slightly to the left and keep bass in the middle as well as the other way round.
In the end it's a question of personal preferences. There is also so many ways to record a drum set (including mono overhead) that there's more than one way to do it.
I learned to mix it like this in live mixing in the 90's and honestly never thought about it until everyone talked about LCR or not....
It just sounds natural to me, but how natural is a drum mix anyway....
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Post by jdc on Feb 22, 2016 17:47:01 GMT -6
If the OH's aren't centered on the snare I like to pan it slightly to clear up the stereo image, things tend to sound smeary to me if the close mics aren't panned to where they reside inside of the OH mix. I do the same with toms.
I may give LCR a real go on my next mix though, just to change things up a bit.
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Post by mrholmes on Feb 22, 2016 21:33:27 GMT -6
Yupp some kicks seem to be soft paned too.
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Post by Ward on Feb 22, 2016 21:40:43 GMT -6
I record and mix drums as if I were playing them, not standing in front of them. As a result, snare always pulls slightly left for me. And it doesn't matter if you supposedly completely dead-on center the overheads, the snare drum is usually to the left of center in any kit set-up so it will pull that way. And the high-hat mic will help with that too.
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Post by Randge on Feb 23, 2016 20:46:26 GMT -6
I mix as if being entertained by the drums and it only feels natural if they are to the right a touch.
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