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Post by scumbum on Feb 6, 2016 19:07:30 GMT -6
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 6, 2016 19:13:10 GMT -6
Hey scum, i've made a new rule for myself of not downloading links, it took me hours to clean them off my rig, I know dropbox allows a playable stream file for linking 8)
edit; i know, i'm a pita haha
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Post by scumbum on Feb 6, 2016 19:24:35 GMT -6
Hey scum, i've made a new rule for myself of not downloading links, it took me hours to clean them off my rig, I know dropbox allows a playable stream file for linking 8) edit; i know, i'm a pita haha Oh , so that link was just for downloading ? I was trying to post the streaming link , does this one work ? |
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 6, 2016 19:30:22 GMT -6
nope, comes up error for me, but i've been having some problems with other links as well pal, maybe someone else can let us know?
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Post by scumbum on Feb 6, 2016 21:11:59 GMT -6
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 6, 2016 21:21:12 GMT -6
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Post by scumbum on Feb 6, 2016 22:10:15 GMT -6
It takes me to your song , so it works . Not sure whats up with my files . I feel like an 80 year old trying to get this new fangled computer gizmo to work and I'm failing , Last try , I right clicked the file , a box appears with a rainbow that says share , heres that link , www.dropbox.com/s/ar9y8tvt5f7iom6/Floor%20Tom%20-%20RockaWay.wav?dl=0 |
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 6, 2016 22:43:49 GMT -6
It takes me to your song , so it works . Not sure whats up with my files . I feel like an 80 year old trying to get this new fangled computer gizmo to work and I'm failing , Last try , I right clicked the file , a box appears with a rainbow that says share , heres that link , www.dropbox.com/s/ar9y8tvt5f7iom6/Floor%20Tom%20-%20RockaWay.wav?dl=0it's download again, look at the picture, when you hover over a file, notice the "share" that shows up on the right side, use that to link the file...  |
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Post by scumbum on Feb 6, 2016 23:06:12 GMT -6
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 7, 2016 0:00:41 GMT -6
forgettaboutit! I just downloaded it, i think the sound suits the style, it is certainly more ringy than the rest of the drums, so I'd say it all depends on what's happening with the vox or? watch for conflict, maybe just dry it up a bit and call it good? |
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Post by joseph on Feb 7, 2016 0:27:28 GMT -6
Well, you can't hear the skin, but I think the drums do sound pretty good for the genre, if you sum the the cymbals to mono. Cut the sub boost on the kick and lessen the 400hz ish cut.
But the main thing is the drums would sound better if the guitar had a little 5khz and was not just sitting there innocuous out front. The drums could sound great if the guitar was right. Then again you add the vocal too and that could change things.
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Post by scumbum on Feb 7, 2016 10:02:33 GMT -6
Thanks Tony for downloading , I have no idea why I can't get that damn stream page to show up . I'm gonna contact them and have them explain it .
Thanks for listening guys . I guess the floor tom is ok . I thought it might be out of tune with the guitar or key of the song . I thought I had it tuned but was in a rush .
That guitar is just a DI and amp sim as a guide track to play drums to . Gonna record a real guitar and amp later . The drums have no eq or compression , so anything you hear with the kick joseph is the kick mic , sennheiser e602 .
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Post by Ward on Feb 7, 2016 10:55:46 GMT -6
Yes, the floor tom (16"?) is out of tune and not treated properly... which is something to consider.
Tune the bottom head first. Pick the note that the floor tom will be tuned to, tune the bottom head a 5th above that. Lay the drum on the floor upside down on a towel so you can't hear the top head at all, and say you were tuning the floor tom top head to E1, tune the bottom head (all lugs tighten and loosen until you get each lug sounding a F#2 so that the bottom head comes out to B2. now listen for any wobbliness in it. if you head it, try a moongel at that point. Tune the top head to E1. Also moongel any wobbliness point you hear in the top head.
Mic both top and bottom heads. Blend to taste.
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Post by terryrocks on Feb 7, 2016 12:39:10 GMT -6
I'm hearing a reso head that's not tuned right. I would try and reduce the resonance with tuning and/or gaffers tape. Floor toms drive me bonkers with that stuff.
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Post by jazznoise on Feb 7, 2016 15:23:19 GMT -6
I'm hearing a reso head that's not tuned right. I would try and reduce the resonance with tuning and/or gaffers tape. Floor toms drive me bonkers with that stuff. Of late I've taken to tuning the resonant head to get the sustain out of the drum I require, and setting the pitch with the top head. If the drum is ringing too long, lower the reso head. If doing that sounds funky, bring it back up till it sounds right and dampen. I don't mind dampening, but I've decided to see if I can avoid it more often. |
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Post by jazznoise on Feb 8, 2016 7:34:38 GMT -6
Sorry to double post - just had a chance to listen to the clip. Yeah, the tom is tuned very flat. If you made a cut around 300Hz you could help reduce some of the "Doooooo" sound, but ultimately the resonant head needs to come up to avoid the pitch dip and both heads need to be better tuned.
The good news is you only make the mistake of getting a decent kit sound and leaving the tom tuned really badly once. Once you know what that sounds like, it's easier to fight it.
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Post by scumbum on Feb 8, 2016 13:06:23 GMT -6
Thanks for the feedback guys ,
I did try a 300 Hz cut and it helps a lot !
I actually don't have a reso head on , just the batter top head . Doing the 70's drum thing .
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Post by Ward on Feb 8, 2016 13:07:51 GMT -6
Thanks for the feedback guys , I did try a 300 Hz cut and it helps a lot ! I actually don't have a reso head on , just the batter top head . Doing the 70's drum thing . Rut Ro... |
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Post by terryrocks on Feb 8, 2016 14:57:49 GMT -6
Shows what I know
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Post by scumbum on Feb 8, 2016 15:07:38 GMT -6
That ringing does sound like the reso head is the issue . That would have been my guess too .
I dialed in the floor tom today . I was tuning it around a B , now I tune it up to a C , added a little damping and its sounding good now .
Hopefully I can salvage those takes with the bad sounding floor tom with EQ.
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Post by jazznoise on Feb 8, 2016 15:38:05 GMT -6
Fuck a duck, I was convinced that was the reso head causing the pitch dive. You live you learn.
Please post your results of your new tom tuning when you get a chance. I've never done the batter-only tom thing, so I'd be curious.
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Post by scumbum on Feb 13, 2016 23:08:15 GMT -6
Fuck a duck, I was convinced that was the reso head causing the pitch dive. You live you learn. Please post your results of your new tom tuning when you get a chance. I've never done the batter-only tom thing, so I'd be curious. So tuning to a C was too high and I went back down to a B where I was before...... BUT , I switched the mic position . Watching the ramones they usually always had the bottom skin off and 1 mic in the bottom of the tom . So thats what I did , instead of micing on top , I only miced from the bottom and inside with the reso head off . Same tuning but WHAT A DIFFERENCE ! No more ringing and the toms sound good . www.dropbox.com/s/y3cd61m0nevrs7b/Suzy.wav?dl=0Make sure to listen to the end of the song , the music stops , then after a few seconds the drums and toms come back on . |
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Post by Ward on Feb 14, 2016 17:44:07 GMT -6
OK, I hope you flipped the phase on that bottom microphone!
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Post by jazznoise on Feb 18, 2016 5:51:17 GMT -6
Sorry it took so long to reply. The tom does sound better, and the tune is reminding me of "I Wanna Be Sedated". Good stuff all round. Not sure I like the mic'ing from underneath thing, I feel its made the tom sound boxier. Big lump around the 500-1Khz area?
All of these 70's solutions to drum mic'ing died out long term cause they basically don't sound as good, they just look a little better.
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