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Post by LesC on Jan 19, 2016 15:21:20 GMT -6
A smaller version of the B80: burlaudio.com/products/b16-mothership It will be interesting to see how much cheaper the smaller package will be for those who don't need massive amounts of I/O. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 19, 2016 15:22:18 GMT -6
Hell yeah!!
The B16 MOTHERSHIP, a 2U, 2-slot version of the revolutionary B80 MOTHERSHIP. Now the legendary sound can be found in a smaller, more portable B16 MOTHERSHIP. Utilizing technology developed for the B80, the new B16 MOTHERSHIP uses the same exact I/O cards as the B80, continuing Burl Audio's deep dedication to analog class-A circuitry.
Using a card based system, and a heavy-duty 2U chassis, the B16 MOTHERSHIP employs 2 daughter card slots with an internal power supply and your choice of Motherboard, Digilink, MADI, Dante or our new SoundGrid connectivity.
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Post by popmann on Jan 19, 2016 15:47:31 GMT -6
How do they call it 16 channel with 2 useable slots? I guess because you could technically make it 16 outputs with no input? So, quick look says that 4x8 or 0x16 or 8x0. Am I missing something? Seems like some odd application. Only way you get enough to externally sum is to not have any inputs?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 19, 2016 15:52:38 GMT -6
I would assume this is still coming in at about $4000
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 19, 2016 15:56:23 GMT -6
How do they call it 16 channel with 2 useable slots? I guess because you could technically make it 16 outputs with no input? So, quick look says that 4x8 or 0x16 or 8x0. Am I missing something? Seems like some odd application. Only way you get enough to externally sum is to not have any inputs? Damn good question... |
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Post by LesC on Jan 19, 2016 18:31:45 GMT -6
How do they call it 16 channel with 2 useable slots? I guess because you could technically make it 16 outputs with no input? So, quick look says that 4x8 or 0x16 or 8x0. Am I missing something? Seems like some odd application. Only way you get enough to externally sum is to not have any inputs? Damn good question... I think the idea is that you could have 16 outputs for summing, then record the output through a Burl B2 ADC. I know some people have B80's and still have a B2 ADC for final mixdown. Probably for the easily variable input from the front panel, which the Mothership units don't have. |
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Post by LesC on Jan 19, 2016 18:33:52 GMT -6
But you could also have 2 BAES4 boards and configure an 8x8 unit.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 19, 2016 19:49:52 GMT -6
Anyone see a price attached?
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Post by popmann on Jan 19, 2016 21:48:29 GMT -6
But you could also have 2 BAES4 boards and configure an 8x8 unit. That's 8x0. (the input cards only have 4 channels so it takes both slots to get 8 in) Yes--you could get the newer B2 ADCs with the Dante and connect it up--no doubt....but, 8x0, 0x16, and 4x8 are kinda functionally odd to me. And, adding a $1k/ch ADC for basic everyday function defeats the purpose of a user scalable box. That IS what I'd do since I already have a B2 and love it....but, I think they should've built 2x2 into the base unit before the cards--then it would make it serve a wider audience. You get 10x2 to track a band and mix ITB....you get 2x16 to overdub record but sum analog (or frankly be able to CAPTURE your 16ch analog sum at all)....6x10 I'm not sure would be functionally useful, but the others would. |
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Post by LesC on Jan 19, 2016 21:55:09 GMT -6
But you could also have 2 BAES4 boards and configure an 8x8 unit. That's 8x0. (the input cards only have 4 channels so it takes both slots to get 8 in) Yes--you could get the newer B2 ADCs with the Dante and connect it up--no doubt....but, 8x0, 0x16, and 4x8 are kinda functionally odd to me. And, adding a $1k/ch ADC for basic everyday function defeats the purpose of a user scalable box. That IS what I'd do since I already have a B2 and love it....but, I think they should've built 2x2 into the base unit before the cards--then it would make it serve a wider audience. You get 10x2 to track a band and mix ITB....you get 2x16 to overdub record but sum analog (or frankly be able to CAPTURE your 16ch analog sum at all)....6x10 I'm not sure would be functionally useful, but the others would. The BAD4 boards are 4 input channels only, that's probably what you're thinking of. I believe the new BAES4 boards are 4 channels in and 4 channels out, so 2 together would be 8x8. Here's their description from the Burl site: BAES4 Features: • 2 Stereo XLR AES Inputs • 2 Stereo XLR AES Outputs • Clocking from BMB, AES IN 1/2 or AES IN 3/4 • Up to 8 channels digital I/O simultaneously in one chassis
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 19, 2016 22:20:00 GMT -6
they may sound great, but imo that form factor looks horrible, you'd think for $4k+ they allow you to read it without turning your head sideways?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 20, 2016 10:53:19 GMT -6
Not really any other way around it I guess. If you want to keep the same form factor.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 6, 2016 9:10:02 GMT -6
Damn...so, there's only $600 difference between the mothership and the B16 with the same number of channels. Not really sure why you'd opt for this - other than having a portable rig at great expense.
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Post by spock on Feb 6, 2016 11:27:12 GMT -6
The key here is 16 Channel "Configurable" AD/DA in the subtitle. From the product webpage: "A typical setup is a 4 in, 8 out system, but it can also be configured as an 8 input tracking system, or a 16-output portable mix rig." The one shown in the pic is configured 4 in 8 out.
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