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Post by LesC on Jan 13, 2016 22:36:01 GMT -6
A new version of Melodyne has been announced: www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/new-in-melodyne-4Near the bottom of that page is about 70 minutes of instructional videos. I've had Melodyne Studio for many years, but for the last few years I've only used Melodyne Editor because it's easier to use as a plugin and for the polyphonic capabilities. This new version looks like it will be easier to use the existing and the new features of Melodyne Studio, neat! I haven't taken a detailed look at the new features yet, but a 30 day free trial is available. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 13, 2016 13:08:26 GMT -6
Just updated...Definitely a improvement in the sound. Really seems transparent. No screwiness with the S's anymore...
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 13, 2016 13:52:20 GMT -6
Wow...it's dramatically improved...I was coming from Melodyne 2 though...
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 14, 2016 21:07:01 GMT -6
Am I the only one that's tried this? I hear a delightful lack of artifacts now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 6:22:34 GMT -6
I did not use the version 2 very much, but since i gave me some time to update while already having the redeem code, i checked it out on a certain quirky part of a vocal track. Then did it again when i went on to version 4 - and yes - it sounds more natural to me in result, really less obvious when i play around with it.
But - i am really not sure if most of this impression that it works much better comes from expectation bias. It is better, no doubt, but i am not sure how much....
Maybe someone else could confirm?
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Post by svart on Mar 15, 2016 9:26:20 GMT -6
I just hope they fixed all the little "quirks" with the software. Forums are filled with people having issues, that the company pretends doesn't exist.
First thing I hope they fixed is the interface.. Yeesh that thing is hard to use. Even after a year of using it, it's still hard to use quickly, unlike most other programs.
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Post by henge on Mar 17, 2016 4:42:02 GMT -6
Funny, over at big purple they're saying Melo 4 sounds worse!!lol
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Post by M57 on Mar 17, 2016 5:24:30 GMT -6
It shouldn't be too hard to shoot it out for anyone who has it and is running Logic. Duplicate a track and make a few straight-ahead pitch adjustments. Right now the only reason I would consider getting Melodyne is because of its polyphonic capabilities, and that is just not worth it to me at this juncture, but add 'better sounding' and now we're starting a list.
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Post by Ward on Mar 17, 2016 6:51:12 GMT -6
Funny, over at big purple they're saying Melo 4 sounds worse!!lol I worry about hearing loss over at the purple site some times. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 17, 2016 7:17:58 GMT -6
I think it sounds dramatically better. Maybe I haven't used it enough...but I don't hear the same artifacts as I'd get in 2.
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Post by henge on Mar 17, 2016 7:20:32 GMT -6
I think it sounds dramatically better. Maybe I haven't used it enough...but I don't hear the same artifacts as I'd get in 2. Alright gotta get the update at some point. I'm still on 2. something |
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Post by M57 on Mar 17, 2016 7:36:51 GMT -6
It shouldn't be too hard to shoot it out for anyone who has it and is running Logic. Duplicate a track and make a few straight-ahead pitch adjustments. Right now the only reason I would consider getting Melodyne is because of its polyphonic capabilities, and that is just not worth it to me at this juncture, but add 'better sounding' and now we're starting a list. ..I mean shoot it out against Logic's Pitch Editor |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 17, 2016 7:46:41 GMT -6
Maybe I should say "more transparent" and not better sounding. Ultimately, I think it's whatever you're fastest in and provides the least obvious results. Cubase's pitch correction is fine - I'm just not as fast in it.
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Post by svart on Mar 17, 2016 8:13:55 GMT -6
I found that Melodyne 2 artifacts are hit/miss. Sometimes they happen, sometimes they don't.
The last few day's I've been editing and tuning main vocals, and I've found no artifacts after transfer, but once I do a wholesale pitch adjustment on the blobs it was about 50% chance of getting excessive tuning artifacts.
So I tried resetting the pitch correction and the artifacts disappeared, then I redid the wholesale correction and the artifacts weren't there..
I also found that if you use the Pitch Transition adjustment, you can smooth out the hitches that can happen.
It's been a process to figure out all the quirks like these, but they can be overcome.
I'd buy version 4 if they can just fix that damn GUI though!
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Post by henge on Apr 16, 2016 10:48:02 GMT -6
I found that Melodyne 2 artifacts are hit/miss. Sometimes they happen, sometimes they don't. The last few day's I've been editing and tuning main vocals, and I've found no artifacts after transfer, but once I do a wholesale pitch adjustment on the blobs it was about 50% chance of getting excessive tuning artifacts. So I tried resetting the pitch correction and the artifacts disappeared, then I redid the wholesale correction and the artifacts weren't there.. I also found that if you use the Pitch Transition adjustment, you can smooth out the hitches that can happen. It's been a process to figure out all the quirks like these, but they can be overcome. I'd buy version 4 if they can just fix that damn GUI though! What do you mean by "resetting the pitch correction"? |
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Post by jdc on Apr 16, 2016 14:22:49 GMT -6
Funny, over at big purple they're saying Melo 4 sounds worse!!lol Probably because 4 is vintage and has a warmer sound |
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Post by henge on Apr 16, 2016 20:34:06 GMT -6
Funny, over at big purple they're saying Melo 4 sounds worse!!lol Probably because 4 is vintage and has a warmer sound ha! Nice! |
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Post by svart on Apr 17, 2016 17:43:31 GMT -6
I found that Melodyne 2 artifacts are hit/miss. Sometimes they happen, sometimes they don't. The last few day's I've been editing and tuning main vocals, and I've found no artifacts after transfer, but once I do a wholesale pitch adjustment on the blobs it was about 50% chance of getting excessive tuning artifacts. So I tried resetting the pitch correction and the artifacts disappeared, then I redid the wholesale correction and the artifacts weren't there.. I also found that if you use the Pitch Transition adjustment, you can smooth out the hitches that can happen. It's been a process to figure out all the quirks like these, but they can be overcome. I'd buy version 4 if they can just fix that damn GUI though! What do you mean by "resetting the pitch correction"? Right click on the blob and choose "reset pitch".. I find that if I do a right click and "select all" and then "reset pitch", and then redo the pitch correction, sometimes it sounds a lot better. |
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Post by joseph on Apr 17, 2016 20:55:49 GMT -6
I don't have version 4, but Melodyne editor has saved the day on a few occasions, when you have a lead guitar player who's take has a great vibe, but plays a note here or there which clashes too much. Not at all the wrong timing, but the wrong note. So you shift the note, and you have a great take. It's a convenience that you can also nudge time within the program for the similar problem where a take is great but lacks unison at the very end of a song or important transition. But maybe the lead up is perfect and has life on that one take and the retakes just don't have it and you don't want to demoralize the guitar player to retrack again.
I tend not to like grid performances, but part of this is doing what you can to preserve the entirety of the best takes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 0:45:23 GMT -6
Due to tight ARA integration i really dig working with it in Sonar. There is a great feature if you have tracks of unknown tempo and need the meter to sync to midi etc..
You mark a part of the track that has good hearable beat and make it a Melodyne clip. Draging the clip on the tempo ruler and drop with the mouse. Project tempo set and sync done by Melodyne...
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Post by henge on Apr 19, 2016 3:24:18 GMT -6
What do you mean by "resetting the pitch correction"? Right click on the blob and choose "reset pitch".. I find that if I do a right click and "select all" and then "reset pitch", and then redo the pitch correction, sometimes it sounds a lot better. Cool! I have to try that. |
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