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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 12, 2016 11:15:05 GMT -6
Everyone remain calm haha, i appreciate the comment about drummers, I also find it interesting that Ethan Winer rears his head, the funny thing to me, is in a sea of shit sounding audio, people tend to nasty stance push back on people looking to improve the sound of things...? weird flatworld BS if you ask me..., then there are people like Greg Wells who say they hear diffs, but can't mix to save his life, very strange existence this pro audio world.... ok, go!
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Jan 12, 2016 12:09:21 GMT -6
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Post by warrenfirehouse on Jan 12, 2016 14:52:41 GMT -6
So in his opinion, a high end clocking device is only going to improve things on the dac side of a system?
This would actually make alot of sense considering people never hear much of a difference in web shootouts, yet people who bring them in their studios talk about big gains in clarity, depth, imaging etc...
So, is it worth it to spend 5 or 6k on a top notch antelope 10m clock to improve just your monitoring without any improvement to your finished bounced file?
I guess maybe for the guy who has everything else hed ever want in his studio.
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Jan 12, 2016 15:10:29 GMT -6
unless you're running your bounce out thru your converters and back in, you're not going to hear any difference in your bounced file, because the bounced file is being computed internally. it never goes outside of the computer, except thru your speakers. For me, the whole point of high-end conversion is so I can hear accurately what the computer is calculating internally when I play back the session. Regardless of if I were listening on an MBox1 or a Lavry, it would not affect what the computer calculates when I press the play button.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jan 12, 2016 16:07:45 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Jan 12, 2016 16:29:26 GMT -6
I can tell you for certain that the dac chips do not have PLL's in them. Their timing is wholly derived from an external source.
It's possible that the receiver circuit has a pll for reclocking the incoming data but a lot of that jitter has to do with the quality of the reference oscillator used. One cannot get jitter that is better than the base jitter of the clock that is used to time the PLL
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Post by rocinante on Jan 12, 2016 18:33:35 GMT -6
The only problem I was aware of noticeable jitter and so hense needing an external clock was when daisy chaining various converters via tdif or adat or whatever.
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Post by Guitar on Jan 13, 2016 17:18:15 GMT -6
This topic gives me the jitters, hehehe.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jan 13, 2016 17:41:06 GMT -6
What's important from an audibility standpoint is the jitter spectrum.
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Post by rocinante on Jan 13, 2016 22:53:59 GMT -6
What's important from an audibility standpoint is the jitter spectrum. Care to elaborate? |
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