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Post by tasteliketape on Jan 9, 2016 12:58:42 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Jan 9, 2016 14:02:29 GMT -6
Yeah I heard about this, I asked my computer architecture expert and my VP level guy at Dell, both poo pooed it talking about how it was low level and that's why we have error correction, but they both did say Just leave it turned on at cloud back up are easy cures!
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 9, 2016 14:12:28 GMT -6
If this is true it calls for backup at home or cloud....
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Post by tasteliketape on Jan 9, 2016 14:25:57 GMT -6
Once had a engineer tell me "if its not back up in 3 places it doesn't exist "
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 9, 2016 14:40:43 GMT -6
I put a 90gig SSD drive as my main OS drive in my macpro 3-4 years ago, i went back to the east coast for an extended work/family visit that lasted 3 months, in that time, my macpro was unplugged the entire time, I didn't lose anything, and it's still working a treat to this day so? I do want to get some better back up going, I've been using a pretty old external usb drive, any suggestions on a relatively painless, inexpensive, highly secure and accurate way to store backup moving forward would be appreciated.
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Post by ericn on Jan 9, 2016 15:29:37 GMT -6
I have a couple of gigs of conventional drives hooked up to my google fiber box as well as a mobile me and Google Drive acct.
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Post by wiz on Jan 9, 2016 15:44:30 GMT -6
Once had a engineer tell me "if its not back up in 3 places it doesn't exist " if You were in Australia in the early 90s and the engineer was from DIGITAL computers that would have been (could have) me.... except I would have added... "in two physically different locations" 8) cheers Wiz
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Post by wiz on Jan 9, 2016 15:46:01 GMT -6
I back up to Time Machine (1)
Second Drive in computer (2)
My wifes computer in house over ethernet(3 and different location)
My wifes Time Machine (4)
I also have another set of 2 discs in house, that are archives...
cheers
Wiz
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Post by rowmat on Jan 9, 2016 16:14:34 GMT -6
Our setup sounds similar to Wez's. iMac is Time Machined and those backups along with all music related files are backed up to a pair of external LaCie drives.
The only SSD we use is the internal drive in the iMac.
We also have just run new cabling (Cat 6 data and also new heavier gauge mains power cabling) between the studio and the house and are locating a Synology NAS containing two 2TB drives in a RAID configuration in the house. Once installed it will provide us with a RAID backup over gigabit Ethernet.
The NAS backups are then copied to a portable 2.5" drive and which is held offsite.
As drives becomes full they are archived (stored as bare drives, no enclosure) and we make an expanded 'Finder' screenshot of the music project directories for the drive, print it and put it with the corresponding drive to make it easier to identify which drive contains what completed sessions. You could do also do something similar in 'Explorer' on a Windows PC.
To easily access the data on an archived drive we use a USB 3.0 dual docking station which allows you to plug a bare drive directly into the dock. It can also be used to clone one drive to another.
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Post by winetree on Jan 9, 2016 16:18:35 GMT -6
Had my OS system on a SSD. Everytime I'd do my online banking I'd reset Safari ( clear website data ). After about 5 months it wouldn't boot up anymore. I could use it as an external drive and get the data off of it, so it must have taken out the OS sector. I know your not suppose to defrag or erase SSDs. I guess that true.
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Post by mulmany on Jan 9, 2016 17:23:19 GMT -6
The only problem I have had with SSD was in an external enclosure. Tracking engineer transfered the files to it and did not eject the disc, just unplugged and it killed the drive. I was very pissed.
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Post by porkyman on Jan 9, 2016 22:21:37 GMT -6
this is my worst nightmare. how do you guys set up backup. is it automatic or do you have to remember to do it everyday?
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Post by Ward on Jan 9, 2016 22:26:29 GMT -6
Gal darn it.... I forgot to back up today's sessions!! Now, do I drive 20 minutes to the studio and back up everything or wait until lunch time, after church, and wait until I'm a nervous wreck to go and run the backup? Crap crap crap crap crap...
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Post by ericn on Jan 9, 2016 22:26:47 GMT -6
this is my worst nightmare. how do you guys set up backup. is it automatic or do you have to remember to do it everyday? I do both!
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Post by tasteliketape on Jan 9, 2016 23:22:04 GMT -6
So is time machine ok to use? For. Some reason I thought it wasn't
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Jan 10, 2016 8:31:55 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Jan 10, 2016 9:41:52 GMT -6
This is why I always suggest a standard type hard drive when people ask what to put in their recording computers. The technology is moving fast but in typical fashion it's a fast movement to market the technology rather than fast movement to bullet proof technology.
I did however pick up an Intel solid state drive for real cheap during one of these holiday sales that I might swap in for the OS Drive when I upgrade the motherboard and processor in the recording computer. I do keep the data on a standard drive, I really just want to see if the OS caching on an SSD really speeds things up. I'll make a clone of the OS Drive on a standard hard drive to revert back to in case of failure but the reason I chose the more expensive and slightly slower Intel is that they have the lowest failure rates in the and it was more of a defensive choice.
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Post by winetree on Jan 10, 2016 15:27:49 GMT -6
O.S. on a S.S.D. drive will definitely speed up your computer. I took my custom built I7, 8 core, dual SSD, into my Computer tech guy ( forgot my Password ) and he said it was the fastest computer he'd worked on. It has instant response.
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Post by porkyman on Jan 11, 2016 21:02:39 GMT -6
O.S. on a S.S.D. drive will definitely speed up your computer. I took my custom built I7, 8 core, dual SSD, into my Computer tech guy ( forgot my Password ) and he said it was the fastest computer he'd worked on. It has instant response. i concur. before going ssd i had spent a bunch of money on ram and didnt notice any improvement. since ssd everything is instantaneous. such a big difference. theres no way i can go back. after reading this though im only gonna backup up to disk drives.
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