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Post by rowmat on Dec 7, 2015 13:13:59 GMT -6
Well once upon a time it did really happen...
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Post by svart on Dec 7, 2015 13:21:31 GMT -6
I could think of a lot worse mics to "have" to use..
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Dec 7, 2015 14:15:02 GMT -6
Actually they had M49s. The U67 had just been released in 1959.
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Post by tasteliketape on Dec 7, 2015 14:16:54 GMT -6
Well damn it I have to use a stinkin m49!
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Post by ericn on Dec 7, 2015 14:29:46 GMT -6
I once walked in to a live gig and all we had was 414's and c451s I was a sad camper, not!
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Post by rowmat on Dec 7, 2015 14:40:57 GMT -6
Actually they had M49s. The U67 had just been released in 1959. Yes the original studio recording had M49's and I think a U47 above the kit. This live clip was recorded in Belgium in 1964 and shows U67's on the sax, piano and drums. However I couldn't see what was used on the bass. The U67 on Brubeck's piano does look somewhat close IMO although they may have be attempting to reduce spill/feedback especially as I assume they were running through a PA.
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Post by rowmat on Dec 7, 2015 14:43:47 GMT -6
Of course the catch with many studio condenser mics in live situations is feedback especially in the high end.
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Post by ericn on Dec 7, 2015 14:53:25 GMT -6
Of course the catch with many studio condenser mics in live situations is feedback especially in the high end. Yes and know , often linearity trumps rejection, and with guys of this caliber monitoring isn't as much of an issue, I was taught the advantage of omnis doing off Broadway stuff the advantage was the response of the mic was the same no matter where they were pointed , never had to reach for an EQ to fight a squeal , guy who did the tour thought I was nuts and switched to directional mics it was a squeal fest brought me in after 3 weeks switched to omnis and after a very quick ring out each night no problems.
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Post by rowmat on Dec 7, 2015 14:55:06 GMT -6
Photo shot during the 'Time Out' sessions. Looks like a U47/48 out front of the kit. The other visible mics appear to be M49's. Pic is on the small side but the U47 is definitely identifiable.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Dec 7, 2015 15:00:08 GMT -6
Feedback? This was before stage monitors and the mikes would have only been used for broadcast or recording.
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Post by rowmat on Dec 7, 2015 15:07:58 GMT -6
Feedback? This was before stage monitors and the mikes would have only been used for broadcast or recording. I was thinking many of these live performances would have been purely 'acoustic' unamplified affairs unless the venue was very large. So you are probably correct that these U67's are most likely for recording/broadcast purposes only. And yes stage monitoring didn't really appear with a vengeance until the 1970's. The louder the band, the louder the PA, the more monitoring was needed which meant more spill and worse sound!
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Post by EmRR on Dec 7, 2015 20:22:24 GMT -6
Feedback? This was before stage monitors and the mikes would have only been used for broadcast or recording. Definitely a TV studio set. A few years ago I was at The Sonics first gig since roughly 1970, and in conversation with them the next day they were all freaked out by stage monitors, having never experienced them before. They had effectively retired before encountering them!
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