|
|
Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 6, 2015 10:07:00 GMT -6
I own one, but never even put it up. These worth anything? For $40 should I gtab a second to have a pair? Can these be fixed up to be OK on the cheap? Anyone?
|
|
|
|
Post by tonycamphd on Dec 6, 2015 10:41:47 GMT -6
I own one, but never even put it up. These worth anything? For $40 should I gtab a second to have a pair? Can these be fixed up to be OK on the cheap? Anyone? link or it's not real |
|
|
|
Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 6, 2015 10:55:02 GMT -6
I own one, but never even put it up. These worth anything? For $40 should I gtab a second to have a pair? Can these be fixed up to be OK on the cheap? Anyone? link or it's not real Apparently it's the same mic as the MCA SP1, which is a mod platform ($53 on B&H). Musiciansfriend.com/stupid recordinghacks.com/microphones/MXL/V250These guys are legit right (unlike mic and mod)? microphone-parts.com/pages/mxl-v250-mods |
|
|
|
Post by mdmitch2 on Dec 6, 2015 13:27:40 GMT -6
I bought one to mod. The microphone parts stuff is good (and legit). I might do the mparts circuit with a Heiserman capsule ..... Unless I can fit a transformer in there, and then who knows ..../
I have some mparts capsules for sale in classifieds.
|
|
|
|
Post by sean on Dec 6, 2015 14:01:54 GMT -6
|
|
|
|
Post by rocinante on Dec 6, 2015 14:42:53 GMT -6
If its the same as the sp1 then thats a good deal on a good donor body albeit without external switches for pad and pattern. Fits Dany's u87 at any rate.
|
|
|
|
Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 6, 2015 15:03:38 GMT -6
If its the same as the sp1 then thats a good deal on a good donor body albeit without external switches for pad and pattern. Fits Dany's u87 at any rate. So an SP1 for $53 sounds like it would be a better donor with the switches right? |
|
|
|
Post by mdmitch2 on Dec 6, 2015 15:13:39 GMT -6
Sp1 doesn't have switches does it? For Danys u87 Clone there's an internal jumper to switch bw cardioid and omni. Pretty simple/quick....
|
|
|
|
Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 6, 2015 15:29:55 GMT -6
Sp1 doesn't have switches does it? For Danys u87 Clone there's an internal jumper to switch bw cardioid and omni. Pretty simple/quick.... Ahh yeah, no switches. |
|
|
|
Post by kidvybes on Dec 6, 2015 18:44:48 GMT -6
By the time you buy the mic ($40), upgrade the capsule ($120) and the PCBs, components and such ($130), you still won't have a mic as good as the 3U Audio Warbler I ($270 shipped), IMHO...
|
|
|
|
Post by noah shain on Dec 6, 2015 19:21:21 GMT -6
By the time you buy the mic ($40), upgrade the capsule ($120) and the PCBs, components and such ($130), you still won't have a mic as good as the 3U Audio Warbler I ($270 shipped), IMHO... I ordered all that stuff today. Mostly to learn. I'm not expecting a vintage Neumann out of it but I'm curious what makes you say that? |
|
|
|
Post by mdmitch2 on Dec 6, 2015 19:37:13 GMT -6
I ordered all that stuff today. Mostly to learn. I'm not expecting a vintage Neumann out of it but I'm curious what makes you say that? The microphone parts components will make for a very nice sounding mic --- which capsule did you get? |
|
|
|
Post by kidvybes on Dec 6, 2015 19:53:39 GMT -6
By the time you buy the mic ($40), upgrade the capsule ($120) and the PCBs, components and such ($130), you still won't have a mic as good as the 3U Audio Warbler I ($270 shipped), IMHO... I ordered all that stuff today. Mostly to learn. I'm not expecting a vintage Neumann out of it but I'm curious what makes you say that? ...I'm not saying that those elements won't sound good...I'm simply saying that a microphone designed from the ground up, with all components chosen to compliment each other in a proprietary manner is more likely to perform in a defined manner, than a "choose one from column A, one from column B" style of construction...if you have the expertise to modify the Schoeps circuit to best couple with the capsule of your choice (by choosing components of different values than supplied with the kit) or tune the stock capsule to better suit the circuit as it stands, then you're refining to a more proprietary type design...I personally prefer transformer-coupled circuits, but that doesn't limit the potential of a transformerless design... ...but don't misunderstand my point...I think you will end up with a very competent microphone, and moreover, the building/learning aspect will certainly enhance the experience...I just believe that if you want a specifically 87-inspired, or 47-inspired, or C12-inspired end product, then the proprietary route would be more productive...those Warbler mics were designed to have a very specific voicing which entailed the tailoring of components to better achieve the final result...over the years, I've had plenty of cheap Schoeps circuit-based Chinese mics that were modified with capsule swaps, transformer-swaps and circuit tweaks, but while it was fun to test out different options, the mics never proved to be keepers for me... ...those microphone-parts kits seem to be a good DIY alternative to the Oktavamod options such as: www.oktavamodshop.com/product_info.php?cPath=2_28&products_id=200 |
|
|
|
Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 6, 2015 20:04:01 GMT -6
Anyone used these stock? Guitar cab? Perhaps on toms? Better than a 57?
|
|
|
|
Post by rocinante on Dec 6, 2015 20:23:45 GMT -6
Sp1 does Not have switches. You have to jumper it internally. Not a terrible dilemma but not exactly top notch considering the quality of the build.
IMHO the d-u87 is one of the great diy projects out there. I've built three (each with a different capsule) and use them All the time. i have been meaning to give microphone parts a try. i used Behringer b2 bodies for mine and had frank do my engraved plates.
|
|
|
|
Post by mdmitch2 on Dec 6, 2015 20:53:08 GMT -6
Sp1 does Not have switches. You have to jumper it internally. Not a terrible dilemma but not exactly top notch considering the quality of the build. IMHO the d-u87 is one of the great diy projects out there. I've built three (each with a different capsule) and use them All the time. i have been meaning to give microphone parts a try. i used Behringer b2 bodies for mine and had frank do my engraved plates. +1 -- I did mine with a cinemag in a cad gxl 2200 body. ~$300 build if you use mparts capsule. ~$425 w/heiserman capsule. Maybe I'll do a shootout with the mparts transformerless mic...... total cost is about the same. Curious to try the 3u warbler too. |
|
|
|
Post by drbill on Dec 6, 2015 21:10:24 GMT -6
I ordered all that stuff today. Mostly to learn. I'm not expecting a vintage Neumann out of it but I'm curious what makes you say that? ...I'm not saying that those elements won't sound good...I'm simply saying that a microphone designed from the ground up, with all components chosen to compliment each other in a proprietary manner is more likely to perform in a defined manner, than a "choose one from column A, one from column B" style of construction...if you have the expertise to modify the Schoeps circuit to best couple with the capsule of your choice (by choosing components of different values than supplied with the kit) or tune the stock capsule to better suit the circuit as it stands, then you're refining to a more proprietary type design...I personally prefer transformer-coupled circuits, but that doesn't limit the potential of a transformerless design... ...but don't misunderstand my point...I think you will end up with a very competent microphone, and moreover, the building/learning aspect will certainly enhance the experience...I just believe that if you want a specifically 87-inspired, or 47-inspired, or C12-inspired end product, then the proprietary route would be more productive...those Warbler mics were designed to have a very specific voicing which entailed the tailoring of components to better achieve the final result...over the years, I've had plenty of cheap Schoeps circuit-based Chinese mics that were modified with capsule swaps, transformer-swaps and circuit tweaks, but while it was fun to test out different options, the mics never proved to be keepers for me... ...those microphone-parts kits seem to be a good DIY alternative to the Oktavamod options such as:www.oktavamodshop.com/product_info.php?cPath=2_28&products_id=200Disagree completely. Joly has spent years dialing in his capsules, circuitry and sound just as you describe above to achieve a very consistent sound with mics. A DIY kit is fun, but in comparing apples to apples, I'd choose a Joly mic over making one myself any day of the week. Oktavamod has proven to be an EXCELLENT option for thousands of happy users... |
|
|
|
Post by rocinante on Dec 6, 2015 21:44:51 GMT -6
I agree. As much as i like and build diy mics Jolly's stuff is a whole different level. I have a joly oktava 319. Ive owned it for a good many years because its came through so many times. Total studio workhorse.
|
|
|
|
Post by robschnapf on Dec 7, 2015 10:01:14 GMT -6
The microphone parts stuff is cool. I've done a couple of kits and always ended up with something better.
Oktava mod is really great stuff.
Michael does great work.
Mkl 2500 power supply and capsule.
012 electronics and 33mm large diaphragms.
Prototype mic in 219 body.
MKL101 33mm capsule
012 Joly LDC.
They are real and I use them all the time.
|
|
|
|
Post by kidvybes on Dec 7, 2015 10:39:46 GMT -6
...it may be beneficial to point out the design sources for those Microphone-parts.com circuit kits are some pretty reputable techs as well (Jim Williams, and Brian Fox of Fox Audio Research to name a couple)...Dany Bouchard's classic clone PCB kits are very impressive (http://www.vintagemicrophonepcbkit.com/) and have proven to be the basis for some amazing clone builds...Chunger's kits (http://store.studio939.com/) are also well-proven, so these are all very viable options...more a matter of whether you're inclined to go the DIY route, or let someone more experienced re-flow the solder for you...
|
|
|
|
Post by drbill on Dec 7, 2015 23:07:02 GMT -6
Prototype mic in 219 body. 012 Joly LDC. They are real and I use them all the time. I loved that silver prototype Rob. You still got it? That was a sweet mic. The LDC's for the 012's are excellent as well. Love those. |
|
|
|
Post by robschnapf on Dec 8, 2015 3:53:19 GMT -6
oh man I loved that thing whatever it was. I bugged Michael on and off over a couple of years for that mic but I Can't remember what happened. I don't think it existed anymore or something.
Anyways He made me something that he thought was similar to it.
I really like it.
|
|
