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Post by sozocaps on Dec 3, 2015 10:13:07 GMT -6
Hey all... hope all are doing great!
OMG almost a year gone by since I posted...
Have had a super busy year with work which is a good thing.
This time of year I get some down time and start doing music related things for about a month.
I am looking/shopping for some condenser microphones large and small.
I need some help, it seems to of gotten harder to choose as of late with all the boutique and China choices and the standard big names for me are getting left in the dust by destroying these great sounding mics under guise of "making them better" {trying to save costs by going "TLM" or "XLS" (transformerless) } and surface mount etc...
Can someone summarize what I should be looking at?
Thanks !!!!!
John
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Post by Ward on Dec 3, 2015 10:19:35 GMT -6
What kind of budget do you have in mind?
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Post by sozocaps on Dec 3, 2015 10:37:18 GMT -6
It's more of ... I will pay if needed but I don't want to pay for a Tele c12 at 8k which is the price of a new car almost... Just BS CEO salaries....
Or I do not want to take chances like I did on my Michal Jolly u47 clone which came with hot glue holding the capsule in. I hate the sound more importantly and it seems to frigin hum now and is not even usable on a room mic .
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Post by mdmitch2 on Dec 3, 2015 10:46:05 GMT -6
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Post by ragan on Dec 3, 2015 11:18:18 GMT -6
Hey all... hope all are doing great! OMG almost a year gone by since I posted... Have had a super busy year with work which is a good thing. This time of year I get some down time and start doing music related things for about a month. I am looking/shopping for some condenser microphones large and small. I need some help, it seems to of gotten harder to choose as of late with all the boutique and China choices and the standard big names for me are getting left in the dust by destroying these great sounding mics under guise of "making them better" {trying to save costs by going "TLM" or "XLS" (transformerless) } and surface mount etc... Can someone summarize what I should be looking at? Thanks !!!!! John Check out the 3U Audio thread here on RGO or on GS. It's a unique situation where you're buying from the designer AND the guy who owns the factory where they're made. Lots of pics of the circuits. You'll see what I mean. Good luck. |
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Post by jayfitz on Dec 3, 2015 11:25:42 GMT -6
If you're looking for a real true "big boy" mic, then the Microtech Gefell CMV 563/M7S is one of the most amazing mics made in modern times. Still made by the same folks that brought Neumann to the world and to strict German standards. You can get one for under $5k www.gefell-m7.com/ |
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Post by kidvybes on Dec 3, 2015 12:26:02 GMT -6
Check out the 3U Audio thread here on RGO or on GS. It's a unique situation where you're buying from the designer AND the guy who owns the factory where they're made. Lots of pics of the circuits. You'll see what I mean. Good luck. +10 ...to my knowledge, there is no company building mics at this level of quality for these prices ($125-$599 for the most part)...simply because the veteran microphone designer responsible for the 3U Audio line owns his own small manufacturing facility, where they not only hand-solder and assemble the mics, they actually machine their own capsules (who does that at these prices?) and he sells direct to the audio community (wholesale)...IMHO, simply the best options at these price-points...you can literally multiply the 3U Audio pricing by 2-3 times to equate to what you can comparatively buy new in the marketplace of equal quality... ...you can check out the product-line and specs here: www.3uaudio.com...the purple site thread is humongous (for good reason) but worth the effort to sort thru: www.gearslutz.com/board/low-end-theory/999545-affordable-ldc-microphone-multiple-voicings.html |
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Post by joseph on Dec 3, 2015 13:53:10 GMT -6
Josephson E22s. Get a pair and you'll find yourself using them on everything.
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Post by tonycamphd on Dec 3, 2015 14:03:34 GMT -6
why not build a Matachung C12 and a MKU47? i know you've built some other stuff, with the right capsules and caps, those mics are impossible to beat for the $ imo, besides i heard you know where to get good caps 8)
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 3, 2015 14:14:39 GMT -6
Good options above. Here's one more. Buy a stock mic - any kind - I bought a CV3...and have Shannon put in one of his caps. It's just freaking phenomenal.
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Post by jayfitz on Dec 3, 2015 15:40:09 GMT -6
Josephson E22s. Get a pair and you'll find yourself using them on everything. This. These are one of the most organic sounding, well built mics on the market. They work amazingly well with many sources. And Josephson is one of the truly innovative mic companies in existence. |
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Post by ericn on Dec 3, 2015 16:52:26 GMT -6
Good options above. Here's one more. Buy a stock mic - any kind - I bought a CV3...and have Shannon put in one of his caps. It's just freaking phenomenal. If you want a mic that fits your voice like a glove This is the only way to go! spend a bit of time talking to Shannon will be the fastest route to where you want to be! |
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Post by joseph on Dec 3, 2015 17:15:02 GMT -6
Yep.
The reason I love them so much is you can put put them close to a snare or floor tom, but you don't need to pad them down or get that woofy resonance that you sometimes get with dynamics too close, but farther away you still get substantial low end. This gives them a huge sweet spot where they sound true to the source, no matter how loud.
They're detailed condensers but not overly crisp or sizzly. Plus they're ridiculously durable brass, and have perfectly controlled bleed and off axis response, which is really noticeable on cymbals.
They have flattering transient response on plectrum instruments but sound a little meatier than other sdcs. Although you really do need a good preamp on quieter sources.
All the Josephson mics I've heard have the smoothest capsules. From an engineering perspective, they are unbeatable.
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Post by Guitar on Dec 4, 2015 9:34:02 GMT -6
I will second Tony's advice, take a look at vintagemicrophonepcb.com and if you feel like soldering a kit together go for it.
If you want to get more nitty gritty and off the beaten path you could start beating up an Apex 460. This is a really fun and rewarding process but it took me 4 years to settle on a single design, so maybe not the quickest route. But I do have two killer custom mics now. I did come across a second design halfway through the process that I'm going to refine into its own mic, sort of a pseudo 251. That is this month's project, I hope it happens more quickly than the first two.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 15:18:19 GMT -6
Big Cad E100 and Neumann TLM 102 fan
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