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Post by henge on Nov 29, 2015 14:27:58 GMT -6
Looks to be pretty cool!! I quote: ""we hope this is viewed as a premium plugin since we spent over 3 years and oodles of money developing & testing it. So it will be an expensive plugin, but we are going to offer some amazing incentives, and I dare say, I don't think anyone will regret spending the money, especially compared to what similar hardware costs, and especially with the feature set and ease of use this little gal offers. We are also going to guarantee hit records from any customer using this plugin. The final price will be announced in a matter of weeks." From le purple.;-) Attachments:
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Post by formatcyes on Nov 29, 2015 15:03:40 GMT -6
I sell a guarantee a hit plugin comes with a 5 million dollars sales guaranteed haven't sold any yet it only cost 10mill.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 29, 2015 15:30:16 GMT -6
I like how he's letting everyone know now that the price is going to be thru the the roof. I'm hoping it's something crazy like $999.
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Post by ragan on Nov 29, 2015 17:16:28 GMT -6
Be interesting to compare it to the others. Just because you're a genius at hardware doesn't make you great at DSP.
I have high hopes though. There'll be a lot of scrutiny so I assume they feel they have to nail it.
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Post by unit7 on Nov 29, 2015 17:54:38 GMT -6
I'm hoping it's something crazy like $999. Like the babe in the woods I am, I don't get why you're hoping for that.. Either way, I think it's time to start guessing. I say $399
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 29, 2015 18:06:32 GMT -6
I'm hoping it's something crazy like $999. Like the babe in the woods I am, I don't get why you're hoping for that.. Either way, I think it's time to start guessing. I say $399 Well, my wallet isn't hoping for it, I just think it would be funny if he's asking a totally unheard of price it.
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Post by formatcyes on Nov 29, 2015 18:23:49 GMT -6
Plugin pricing is interesting It does not cost anymore to produce more units once your RND is done so the target price should be maximum return price. If you price your plugin at $500 and sell 10,000 units its the same as selling 100,000 units at $50bucks not sure how many sales plugin developers do but the sales ratio to price would be interesting.
There are some awsome plugin's in the $50 dollar bracket. For me to hand over more than $150 bucks its gunna have to be a game changer.. the plugin market is shifting.
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Post by ericn on Nov 29, 2015 20:50:23 GMT -6
Plugin pricing is interesting It does not cost anymore to produce more units once your RND is done so the target price should be maximum return price. If you price your plugin at $500 and sell 10,000 units its the same as selling 100,000 units at $50bucks not sure how many sales plugin developers do but the sales ratio to price would be interesting. There are some awsome plugin's in the $50 dollar bracket. For me to hand over more than $150 bucks its gunna have to be a game changer.. the plugin market is shifting. [br In theory but as any plugin developer will tell you , they are completely at the mercy of The DAW Developer, the OS developer and the computer manufacturers so as much as it would be great if it were that simple it's far from it!
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Post by formatcyes on Nov 29, 2015 21:19:42 GMT -6
Plugin pricing is interesting It does not cost anymore to produce more units once your RND is done so the target price should be maximum return price. If you price your plugin at $500 and sell 10,000 units its the same as selling 100,000 units at $50bucks not sure how many sales plugin developers do but the sales ratio to price would be interesting. There are some awsome plugin's in the $50 dollar bracket. For me to hand over more than $150 bucks its gunna have to be a game changer.. the plugin market is shifting. [br In theory but as any plugin developer will tell you , they are completely at the mercy of The DAW Developer, the OS developer and the computer manufacturers so as much as it would be great if it were that simple it's far from it! Only if you want to sell more plugin's. At some point all the plugin's will be abandoned when the cost of maintaining the old code become higher than the return vs not doing anything. The plugin developers are under no obligation to continue to update they do so because they want to sell more. Does not change the price to sell should be set to get maximum return sell 10 units at 5,000 dollars or 100,000 at $50. In the end all software is just vaporware.
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Post by henge on Nov 30, 2015 10:31:35 GMT -6
Dave said the plugin has more features than the EL8 Distressor so my guess is the plugin's model number is the EL888 after it's $888 price tag Ha, nice!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 17:12:56 GMT -6
He's an absolute idiot if he thinks the demand for a distressor is inelastic, he may want to be mindful of Sly-Fi, Sknote and the confirmed Slate versions. Drop it for $50 and you will sell so many of them your head will spin. All he's going to do is price himself out of sales if it's over $200.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 30, 2015 17:17:19 GMT -6
I always question when a model comes out from the same people that design the hardware...why would the hardware guys make a software version as good or better? Seems like it would cut into sales...but maybe I'm just being cynical.
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Post by EmRR on Nov 30, 2015 18:54:02 GMT -6
There's plenty of people who will never consider buying hardware from now on.
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Post by category5 on Nov 30, 2015 21:36:53 GMT -6
It's interesting that he's releasing this himself, without disclosing who did the code and modeling (if it is analog modeled at all). There are really only a handful of outfits doing plugins right now that I think could actually do justice to a compressor plugin like this so hopefully he comissioned one of those to get this done right. Just because they make the hardware, that does not make them an authority on emulating it in the DSP realm. DSP is a completely different manner of sorcery, and the analog emulation realm varies widely from gimmick to pretty-damn-good.
Also, the EL8 isn't the most expensive hardware out there. I say $299 retail, and frequent sales putting it at $200 or below would be the limit for wide success. Above that people will stick with some of the tried-and-true plugins that we already know deliver.
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Post by ericn on Nov 30, 2015 21:53:38 GMT -6
It's interesting that he's releasing this himself, without disclosing who did the code and modeling (if it is analog modeled at all). There are really only a handful of outfits doing plugins right now that I think could actually do justice to a compressor plugin like this so hopefully he comissioned one of those to get this done right. Just because they make the hardware, that does not make them an authority on emulating it in the DSP realm. DSP is a completely different manner of sorcery, and the analog emulation realm varies widely from gimmick to pretty-damn-good. Also, the EL8 isn't the most expensive hardware out there. I say $299 retail, and frequent sales putting it at $200 or below would be the limit for wide success. Above that people will stick with some of the tried-and-true plugins that we already know deliver. Remember Dave got his start at Eventide, and the Distressor is a Digitally Controlled Analog compressor. So Dave Knows a couple of DSP guys!
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