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Post by cademan7 on Nov 18, 2015 20:36:04 GMT -6
Hey guys, I have a quick question. I have two Warm Audio eqp's. They work totally fine on mono sources, but for some reason, not long ago, I noticed that when I put them on a stereo track, it would lose a lot of bass even when the units are bypassed. What I discovered is that it is actually a phase problem, because when I pulled up a multi mono eq before it and flipped the phase on one side, things went back to normal. Any idea why this is? P.S. I only noticed this happening a couple weeks ago after I had to rearrange my patch bay, even though I double checked and everything seems to be hooked up correctly. One more question, should the signal be boosted even when the unit is bypassed? I've noticed this since I got it. I thought maybe it was because it is not true bypass and it is a tube unit. Anyway, sorry for asking so me questions! I'm pretty new to the world of outboard processing in Pro Tools. haha
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Post by ragan on Nov 18, 2015 21:04:49 GMT -6
Some boost is normal, the originals do it too. Not sure about the polarity thing though? I print mixes through mine all the time and haven't had any issues.
I'll ask Bryce and see if he can chime in.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 18, 2015 21:06:03 GMT -6
Could be a bad cable.
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Post by cademan7 on Nov 18, 2015 22:47:34 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure it's not a cable. I've tried multiple cables. I was wondering if this was some kind of common issue with using hardware inserts that I was unaware of or not. It sounds totally fine when I switch the polarity on one side. |
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Post by tasteliketape on Nov 18, 2015 22:55:53 GMT -6
I guess the obvious but in and out have to be the same in 5 out 5. In7 out 7 etc etc for hardware inserts don't know if would cause phase though
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Post by ragan on Nov 18, 2015 22:56:20 GMT -6
I asked Bryce about it and he said patchbays are the source of many problems like this, in his experience. Here's a quote:
"If the patch-bay is balanced and all the cables to and from the patch-bay are balanced, inserts are typically not balanced and depending on what other gear is connected to the bay this will short out ground and cause strange things in different gear, and not always to the gear that's connected to the unbalanced inserts, but the unbalanced inserts affect the whole bay. If the patch-bay is balanced and the inserts are not he'll need special cables made to disconnect the extra pin on the insert side."
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Post by ragan on Nov 18, 2015 23:06:42 GMT -6
Oh yeah, and he said first thing is to try it with no patchbay. Just a couple cables. See if it changes anything.
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Post by cademan7 on Nov 19, 2015 15:39:27 GMT -6
Oh yeah, and he said first thing is to try it with no patchbay. Just a couple cables. See if it changes anything. Ok, I'll give it a shot without the patch bay and see what happens. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 19, 2015 15:46:20 GMT -6
I have two wa76 here and pro tools and use inserts, balanced patchbay and cables.
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 19, 2015 21:45:34 GMT -6
I only noticed this happening a couple weeks ago after I had to rearrange my patch bay, even though I double checked and everything seems to be hooked up correctly?  ? I use a sine wave to check all conectors cables etc. pull em out in, move them, knock with a finger on the conector. Change physical in and outs, disconect from the pp..... In 90% of the cases I have to heat the soldering iron, and someone on this board has to remind me to check the conections first... |
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Post by Ward on Nov 20, 2015 14:40:17 GMT -6
Three possible problem areas:
1. Out of phase cable
2. Patch base issue
3. Out of phase unit.
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