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Post by mrholmes on Nov 13, 2015 8:13:34 GMT -6
Interesting news.
Yesterday I tested some guitars at my retailer and I liked one of the Martin triple Os best.
I asked about the fretboard, and he told me that its made out of richlite "a mixture of paper and plastic (polymer)."
A guitar that costs 1800 Euro comes with plastic / paper fretboard?
Thats some kind of crazy - isn't it?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 13, 2015 8:33:07 GMT -6
Not crazy at all. You obviously liked it better than the wood fretboards that you played, so what's the issue? If it feels good, it is good.  |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 13, 2015 8:45:18 GMT -6
There's no way they're putting that on a $2000 guitar...
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 13, 2015 8:59:04 GMT -6
There's no way they're putting that on a $2000 guitar... but they do it... |
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 13, 2015 9:06:58 GMT -6
Not crazy at all. You obviously liked it better than the wood fretboards that you played, so what's the issue? If it feels good, it is good. No I asked because it felt wired, and I do not want to touch on plastic on 2 k guitar.... |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 13, 2015 9:13:09 GMT -6
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Post by Ward on Nov 13, 2015 10:40:02 GMT -6
Guitars are too damned cheap now, anyhow. They need to be more of a prized possession built with craftsmanship and care. Not these throwaway pieces of crap that the market is flooded with.
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 13, 2015 12:32:08 GMT -6
I like the sound but I dislike the feel of the fretboard. I played over the years Lakewoods, Lowdens, Larivees, Martins and Morgans. I think I know what I am talking about, and I do not understand why Martin uses plastic as wood substitute. In other words I do not buy the guitar because of this. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 13, 2015 13:09:24 GMT -6
I like the sound but I dislike the feel of the fretboard. I played over the years Lakewoods, Lowdens, Larivees, Martins and Morgans. I think I know what I am talking about, and I do not understand why Martin uses plastic as wood substitute. In other words I do not buy the guitar because of this. The $6000 Gibson posted above uses the same material. I understand that you don't like the feel, but there has to be a segment of the market that does like it if they can get $6k for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 10:31:31 GMT -6
I have a bass with ebonol fretboard ("phenolic paper") that i love to death and is well over 2000€ in a similar configuration nowadays. (Bogart SKC Blackstone)
The "plastic" has the right density all along the neck, no dead spots, and feels right, using it since the 90's and would buy again if i have the money...
Nothing bad in using "new" materials if they feel and sound right to you.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 14, 2015 22:59:28 GMT -6
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Post by mobeach on Nov 15, 2015 9:20:40 GMT -6
I know it's not an acoustic but my Steinberger had a polymer neck and fretboard, and that was a $2000 bass. Worth every penny.
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Post by donr on Nov 15, 2015 21:32:58 GMT -6
I like the sound but I dislike the feel of the fretboard. I played over the years Lakewoods, Lowdens, Larivees, Martins and Morgans. I think I know what I am talking about, and I do not understand why Martin uses plastic as wood substitute. In other words I do not buy the guitar because of this. The Lacey Act, as amended in 2008? Government, in other words? What happened to lead solder in the EU? The children! |
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Post by sll on Nov 17, 2015 11:44:12 GMT -6
Good quarter sawn ebony without streaks or blemishes is getting scarce. Forests are being clear cut all over the world. There's even people that poach exotic trees in protected forests.
It's simply a matter of time before ebony will go the way of Brazilian Rosewood. Prices keep going up, and the quality of the wood goes down. Martin and others like Taylor are trying to come up with solutions for sustainable woods and alternative materials. I don't like the idea of plastic in a fingerboard, but something has to change to keep making guitars for the future.
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