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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 9:17:30 GMT -6
Post by rickcarson on Sept 8, 2015 9:17:30 GMT -6
What does everyone like to use on bass? I just thought we could get more talks about mixing and stuff going so here goes. I like the 1176, I also really like MV2 on bass. I usually create a sub I use in parallel with req and rbass. I like L1 if I need to hold it to a wall. I also like Valhalla if I need some chorus.
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 9:44:34 GMT -6
Post by jimwilliams on Sept 8, 2015 9:44:34 GMT -6
It's more simple here as I own great sounding instruments and/or record them owned by others. Since the late 1980's I've used mostly the same stuff. Usually it's a Aphex 651 Expressor used. It controls the worst players well. It works like there's a little man inside running a fader that's smarter and faster than I am. The fact that I never hear it working is a plus for me, YMMV.
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 11:19:20 GMT -6
Post by tonycamphd on Sept 8, 2015 11:19:20 GMT -6
true 1972 jazz bass, when i get serious i bypass the pre on my ampeg, vp28 into amp section via bo hansen direct box for the direct track(soon to be a dandeurloo ZOD tube di!!! I'll definitely post samples when i get that beast going), i like old strings on my bass, i get mid presence via tone knobs, finger position, and driving the pre into some slight harmonic fuzz, compression depends on the music/mix, no dynamics problems here, I almost never use compressors when tracking.
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 11:19:43 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 8, 2015 11:19:43 GMT -6
I've been using the 526 12:1 with 10/2 attack release settings and it controls the hell out of it. I had been using the sta in mixing but have kinda stopped even doing that on the last few songs.
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 11:23:30 GMT -6
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Post by jeromemason on Sept 8, 2015 11:23:30 GMT -6
1176 or a DBX 160 does a really good job too. If it's an 1176 I'll use 8:1 medium attack/release. DBX if I'm wanting more of it laid back and controlled, 1176 if I want growl.
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 13:16:07 GMT -6
Post by mobeach on Sept 8, 2015 13:16:07 GMT -6
Alesis 3630 and that's it.
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 13:16:58 GMT -6
Post by mobeach on Sept 8, 2015 13:16:58 GMT -6
Alesis 3630 and that's it.
Oops, delete
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 13:33:09 GMT -6
Post by EmRR on Sept 8, 2015 13:33:09 GMT -6
Either of the Foote Control Systems types I have 90% of the time, P3500 or P4DMS. I stopped using Distressor or Langevin ELOP on bass for the most part, don't think I've done any more that audition the Serpent SB4001 on bass. Am between appropriate tube comp/lim at the moment, generally wouldn't use them there anyway unless it was a track I'd been sent to mix that really needed help, like a bad DI.
For electric bass, tend to stick a 414 on a cab, sometimes with an EV 666. Acoustic bass as OD, lately usually Samar MF65, with a band/bleed can be DI with DPA 4060 or Oktava MK012 omni sometimes also a ribbon. That all depends on the self-absorption of the drummer.
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 16:59:45 GMT -6
Post by wiz on Sept 8, 2015 16:59:45 GMT -6
For me.. I play into a little ampeg. Mic it with a 421. The preamp is a JLM TG500.
Mixdown wise, LA2A or DBX160 or rarely 1176, rarely, also sometimes LA500 or often a combination of some of the afformentioned.
The little ampeg is great.
cheap too
cheers
Wiz
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 18:13:22 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Sept 8, 2015 18:13:22 GMT -6
Because it always worked in the live world I think Bass I think single space DBX 160! But I also had a AudioArts perametric that always landed on the Bass for some reason!
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 18:23:09 GMT -6
Post by swurveman on Sept 8, 2015 18:23:09 GMT -6
I use the 1176 as well.
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 18:25:08 GMT -6
Post by swurveman on Sept 8, 2015 18:25:08 GMT -6
For me.. I play into a little ampeg. Wiz By "lttle ampeg", which amp are you referring to? Thanks!
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 19:30:46 GMT -6
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Post by wiz on Sept 8, 2015 19:30:46 GMT -6
For me.. I play into a little ampeg. Wiz By "lttle ampeg", which amp are you referring to? Thanks! I will check when I get home. But it's a little sis state 8 inch.... The older model Cheers Wiz
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Bass
Sept 8, 2015 23:40:26 GMT -6
Post by levon on Sept 8, 2015 23:40:26 GMT -6
It's more simple here as I own great sounding instruments and/or record them owned by others. Since the late 1980's I've used mostly the same stuff. Usually it's a Aphex 651 Expressor used. It controls the worst players well. It works like there's a little man inside running a fader that's smarter and faster than I am. The fact that I never hear it working is a plus for me, YMMV. That's interesting, Jim, is that the Easyrider Mode you're talking about?
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Bass
Sept 9, 2015 6:23:35 GMT -6
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Post by mulmany on Sept 9, 2015 6:23:35 GMT -6
I have been using a dbx 903 pulling 10-15db and 1073 esq saturation in parallel to the original track, eq if needed. The original I eq and compress normally then set it to a good level, but a little bit lower than ideal. I then bring the parallel up under it. Mix to taste for different sections of a song.
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Post by henge on Sept 9, 2015 7:28:55 GMT -6
Ken Smith into a Great River pre/eq that's driven pretty hot. Nice and Fat. Mild compression with a UBK Fatso on Glue for a bigger bottom or a WA76 for a tighter bottom. Depends what's needed. Also it seems the majority of the sound comes from touch and position...
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Bass
Sept 9, 2015 8:54:56 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 9, 2015 8:54:56 GMT -6
Ken Smith into a Great River pre/eq that's driven pretty hot. Nice and Fat. Mild compression with a UBK Fatso on Glue for a bigger bottom or a WA76 for a tighter bottom. Depends what's needed. Also it seems the majority of the sound comes from touch and position... How about a pic of that Ken Smith?
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Post by popmann on Sept 9, 2015 14:08:14 GMT -6
I don't care what I use, as long as it has full control....and isn't solely a limiter. A 76 is simply too fast unless you're playing slap.
I'll tell you exactly where I star for any bass---pick, finger, or slap....4:1, 27ms attack, 120 release. Drop the threshold until most notes trigger 3-4db reduction. If slap, the attack gets shortened until the low end push is tightened (lessened) where the thumb and pluck have a similar envelope. Finger, it gets slowed until the low end "push" gets the biggest, but stop before it simply doesn't reduce the sustain. Release is fairly groove dependent on the decision where to have it back to no reducing. Every note is ideal, but for a peppier tempo-you might have to just have it back for the 1&3. I definitely pay attention where it and the kick hit together--make sure it's back for that when possible.
That said, maybe if you're into "bass as binary instrument" ignore me. It's a popular sound now....bass has two states on and off. Playing and muted. Want to know why your butt shakes at Chic and not Katy Perry, though? Slightly oversimplified, certainly, but the short answer is Bernard Edwards fingers...and obviously the mastering engineer allowing you to hear what he played.
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Bass
Sept 9, 2015 16:33:54 GMT -6
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Post by noah shain on Sept 9, 2015 16:33:54 GMT -6
Overstayer master and servant, chop shop, retro double wide Fatnesstastic
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Post by Randge on Sept 9, 2015 20:59:03 GMT -6
I record about as much electric as I do upright bass. I tend to have really grade A Nashville rhythm section guys who really have their acts together on the tracking floor. That said, these guys play so even that not much is needed other than smooth invisible compression to lock them down. The CL-1B has been a staple, but recently, the Highland Dynamic BG-2 has been giving me a bit of color and finalizes the electric bass on the way in with a couple db of compression. As for the upright, I have two bottom Mics and a top mic on it, one condenser, a MA-300 Mojave or Shannon Rhoads capsules CV-4 Miktek and one Cloud ribbon on the bottom and I use several different Mics for the top mic. Lately, it's been an Earthworks QT-C-1. I use both bottom Mics more as a safety net for guys who bring in a gut string bass and might grab a steel string upright. Using both Mics assures me that I will get the amount of thump and clarity I want regardless of what they bring in. I will be tracking both upright and electric with the Highland Dynamic comp this week and will try it on both Mics of the upright to see what I like best and report back. Tim Crouch just sent me a bunch of fiddle and mandolin files that I will run through the BG-2 and send to those who are interested as well.
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Bass
Sept 10, 2015 6:58:42 GMT -6
Post by Ward on Sept 10, 2015 6:58:42 GMT -6
CL1b, you say? Hmmm... interesting possible new application for mine.
But still my favorite with a good active DI (like the Avalon) is the venerable old cantankerous and undependable but great sounding when it works Urei LA4. Sometimes an LA3.
But when it comes to mic'ing a bass amp/cabinet... nothing beats a 47FET into a Drawmer 1960 with as much as 12 db of GR.
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