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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 12, 2015 18:29:03 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 12, 2015 18:30:43 GMT -6
Probably end at $8k.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 12, 2015 18:33:46 GMT -6
Surely not for a mono unit. I figure around 3500 maybe?
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 12, 2015 18:44:30 GMT -6
I would think it goes over $4000
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 12, 2015 19:37:53 GMT -6
4 k plus 600 for the buddy who is pushing it.
I use a clone by vintage design and after 10 years of use I can say its nice to have, but not the sound you need every time.Think clean, no color no nothing. The best ones for this have been the cheapo ones in my FF 400... even the SPL channel one was not clean.
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Aug 12, 2015 21:19:23 GMT -6
man, just get someone to build you an AML ez1073 for like $1300. ask @danderloo how good they sound. I've built them, they're badass.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 12, 2015 21:34:41 GMT -6
man, just get someone to build you an AML ez1073 for like $1300. ask @danderloo how good they sound. I've built them, they're badass. I've owned one and sold it. The AML sounds nothing like a 1081. Which I have also owned and sold, sadly.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 13, 2015 2:50:15 GMT -6
I feel for you Herbie, I know how this calls your name. We only go round once on this merry go round: I say grab it, if you can !
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Post by mobeach on Aug 13, 2015 12:58:32 GMT -6
Are there any shootouts pitting the 1081 against more affordable units?
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Post by kidvybes on Aug 13, 2015 13:59:27 GMT -6
...if Neve-like vibes are what you're looking for, and you can do without the EQ section, this is a real steal right here: www.ebay.com/itm/151776575594...designed and built by Joel Cameron of Rascal Audio, this is the predecessor to his Two-V preamps: tapeop.com/reviews/gear/102/two-v-dual-mic-preamp-500-series/...Joel is a master of the modern-twist on Neve...his summing boards are highly regarded and this preamp features his variable-pad stage, which adds a whole other dimension to the Neve-sound...he built me a 1290-clone that is massive sounding...and this one features a red St.Ives/Marinaire transformer as well as custom Carnhill transformers...most people don't know what this is, so it may fly low on the radar...I hope somebody in this forum can grab it...anybody who knows Joel's build quality (he builds every unit himself) will recognize the value here...
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 13, 2015 14:14:47 GMT -6
The 1081 is cowboy's "white whale".
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Post by jayson on Aug 13, 2015 15:04:09 GMT -6
If it could only stay the price it is now...I wonder how high the price will jump in the last 60 seconds. Auction sniper battle time!
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 13, 2015 18:29:28 GMT -6
The 1081 is cowboy's "white whale". LOL. It really is. Audio exctacy..
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 13, 2015 18:39:48 GMT -6
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Post by yotonic on Aug 13, 2015 18:41:08 GMT -6
You can find them for $4100 new without rack, $4700 with VK rack so paying $4500 plus fees for used is too much in my opinion. Never hurts to email the guy and offer him $3500 right now. Sounds like his last couple auctions didn't go smoothly.
What a great pre. Although I'm partial to the 1084 when it comes to white whales.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 13, 2015 18:53:35 GMT -6
You can find them for $4100 new without rack, $4700 with VK rack so paying $4500 plus fees for used is too much in my opinion. Never hurts to email the guy and offer him $3500 right now. Sounds like his last couple auctions didn't go smoothly. What a great pre. Although I'm partial to the 1084 when it comes to white whales. Looks like the last one closed at $2400 right? Seems pretty reasonable actually.
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Post by swurveman on Aug 13, 2015 18:55:23 GMT -6
"Unit is in excellent condition and includes a VK chassis, valued at an additional $850, on top of the fact the unit sells new for $4500."
I can think of a lot of things that I would spend $4,500.00+ on that would do a lot more to my mixes than one preamp. That being said, everybody has their own gear love. So, if you've got the jones go for it!
Edit: I didn't see that the last one closed at $2400. Now were talking. Will be fun to see the final price.
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Post by mjheck on Aug 13, 2015 19:03:00 GMT -6
...if Neve-like vibes are what you're looking for, and you can do without the EQ section, this is a real steal right here: www.ebay.com/itm/151776575594...designed and built by Joel Cameron of Rascal Audio, this is the predecessor to his Two-V preamps: tapeop.com/reviews/gear/102/two-v-dual-mic-preamp-500-series/...Joel is a master of the modern-twist on Neve...his summing boards are highly regarded and this preamp features his variable-pad stage, which adds a whole other dimension to the Neve-sound...he built me a 1290-clone that is massive sounding...and this one features a red St.Ives/Marinaire transformer as well as custom Carnhill transformers...most people don't know what this is, so it may fly low on the radar...I hope somebody in this forum can grab it...anybody who knows Joel's build quality (he builds every unit himself) will recognize the value here... I can second this - I had a two channel version of it until last year - it was as thick as my 1066's and the ability to attenuate the input to drive the gain was just killer. I loved it, and kept it above all my other preamps (1066's, 512's, V72's, etc.).
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 14, 2015 11:56:41 GMT -6
Isn't the 1081 class AB?
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Post by jimwilliams on Aug 14, 2015 12:30:33 GMT -6
I can think of a lot of things that I would spend $4,500.00+ on that would do a lot more to my mixes than one preamp. That being said, everybody has their own gear love. So, if you've got the jones go for it! Edit: I didn't see that the last one closed at $2400. Now were talking. Will be fun to see the final price. I wonder how you can make a profit spending that much on gear. Pharrel Williams made $2400 on 8 million downloads of his hit "Happy". Seems if you do spend that much it's a gamble you might not make it all back.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 14, 2015 12:39:52 GMT -6
He also probably made several million on radio play and TV/film placement. Probably several million in film placement alone. Streaming is but one revenue stream. If radio - and their payment goes away - it's over.
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Post by popmann on Aug 14, 2015 17:50:08 GMT -6
Pretty sure, yes. But, don't' say that like it's a bad word. It's not like Rupert did that in order to save money. Like classA is the magic holder of all sonic goodness.
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Post by popmann on Aug 14, 2015 18:20:49 GMT -6
But, actually, I was going to bring this up....but, isn't BAE's version actually the same classA 1073 preamp, only married to the 1084's EQ with additional frequency selections still added because Neve didn't use all the terminals on the back of the switching knobs? So, they just filled in the blanks with additional points? The reason I bring it up, is that I personally wouldn't consider buying a 40 year old piece of kit when there's someone making a tit for tat handwired replica that you could literally have a demo unit in your studio on SPEC to try for some sessions....if my rig went up in vapor tomorrow, I might consider a pair of those BAE 1028 or whatever they call the modded one as my only inputs for overdubs. I can't deal without having analog EQ inline any more. There's just SUCH a difference in recording with EQ, no matter how slight the tweak is compared to without and even inserting the same analog EQ at mix time. It's the difference in after the fact it sounds EQ'd....but, if you do it prior to capture, it's just "part of the sound". Which sounds like semantics....dancing about architecture and all, but....it's more efficient to have them all together--no patch cables....and I have to say the Great River was a STUNNING preamp when you add the EQ into the circuit--which is placed (traditionally correctly) unbalanced in between the gain stages/transformers with one TRS patch cable. Loved that combo. Just the variable HPF on that unit was so killer--the Great River, that is....continuous, unlike the Neve--with, if memory serves, a few different types or steepness settings? Regardless--lovely sound. I can still hear in my head that sound of me singing Journey tunes because the M269>Great River>Great River EQ with a big air bump was just "that sound". Instant 80s vocals--you know, the good ones, not....well....the other ones....Huey Lewis....Bryan Adams....Sting....do it to it...that kind of "full but not bloated with gritty smooth air"....lovely. Ahh....to be a rich man, I would SO be looking at his little project studio mixer.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 14, 2015 19:02:18 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't think I'd have a problem going BAE or Heritage next time around for a Neve. I know Heritage has one they call the 8173 - Class A with 1081 eq.
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Post by joseph on Aug 14, 2015 20:31:09 GMT -6
From those that prefer it in situations, my understanding is that the 1081 circuit is leaner than the 1084 or 1073, which makes it better for certain types of vocals (pop, R&B) and potentially less enhancing for others.
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