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Post by mrholmes on Aug 3, 2015 19:52:38 GMT -6
My last question was not spot on! I try again, sorry for that. I am in doubt and need help by those who have tons more experience. I want to go for one High-End native reverb for the lead vocal part. In the past I most often acceptet compromising results. Tommorrow my Ilok two will arrive and I can start activating demos. I am after this airy, but not washy, reverb with a feeling of true size, without ending with too much reverb level, rather felt than heard. My Yamaha reverb can do it, but its sometimes already blocked, and maybe its not tottaly on top... I am also sick of that some verbs, no matter how I level them, disconect from the source. Leveling can make me go crazy in this case. Lexicon PCM Native bundle?
PHOENIXVERB STEREO REVERB PLUG-IN?
Have good offer for PCM 80 @ 400 €?
Relab 480?
Any other options?
Cheers and thanks for your opinions will help me to not demo them all.
Holmes
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Post by mulmany on Aug 3, 2015 20:23:13 GMT -6
I have been loving Phoenix Verb. Lots of options for tweeking to fit the song. I like the width option. It sounds really good to, nice and clean with no grainy tail.
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Post by lpedrum on Aug 3, 2015 21:36:27 GMT -6
I like the Phoenix too. But the Hofa is great also--check the earlier thread here on RGO. Both are different but great. The Phoenix is seriously hi fi, and the Hofa has a wow factor. That's over simplifying things I know!
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Post by Guitar on Aug 3, 2015 21:43:03 GMT -6
I'll throw in a mention for Acon Digital Verberate, not having tried too many of these others mentioned
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Post by Guitar on Aug 3, 2015 21:43:35 GMT -6
Oh and you can't forget Valhalla, I've been using Vintage Verb quite a bit lately.
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 4, 2015 9:03:22 GMT -6
I'll throw in a mention for Acon Digital Verberate, not having tried too many of these others mentioned Did try it today, can imagine that it has some lovers to my taste too much bathroom alike. And I miss the dense ER which I can hear on many of my favorite recordings. Same is true for Vhalla.... The YAMAHA REVERB 500 is still king. I LOK should be here...soon... |
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 5, 2015 15:22:57 GMT -6
Whoa
Used the Lexicon PCM Hall today on LV in a mix.
That bundle outdated all my reverb options!!
Dense ERs nice tails bla bla...
But the best of it all is you cant make it sound bad even if you use high doses of send level.
Its not hard to make that one sit in mix right.
I like the concepts of different plug ins too.
Lets see what the Exponential Audio sounds like, will check tomorrow.
Its not hard to like the Lexicon sound.
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Post by porkyman on Aug 5, 2015 23:20:56 GMT -6
ive got phoenix verb too but lately ive just been going with waves manny verb. i think theyre just bricasti impulses. its so fast and easy. instant gratification. i feel i have to work a lot harder to get what i want with phoenix. planning on renting slates plugs for a while just to try the 480. its free right now if you own any of his plugs so perfect timing.
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Post by henge on Aug 6, 2015 4:46:14 GMT -6
Exponentials R2 is excellent as well.
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 6, 2015 8:47:25 GMT -6
Exponentials R2 is excellent as well. I believe it. Did try P-Verb vs Native PCM today, and I do think they are both top reverbs, both can make me smile and they can be too close to call. Its very hard to make a decision. I love the ease of use of the P-Verb but also the darkness of the Lexicon. I think I pick the Lexicon first because its price is to tempting. |
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Post by mulmany on Aug 6, 2015 8:51:02 GMT -6
I would demo the R2. It is supposed to be more like the vintage lexicon verbs, coloration and all.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 6, 2015 9:22:55 GMT -6
I would demo the R2. It is supposed to be more like the vintage lexicon verbs, coloration and all. Plus, Michael from Exponential designed the Lexicon verbs right? He should know how to get that sound. |
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 6, 2015 12:11:19 GMT -6
I would demo the R2. It is supposed to be more like the vintage lexicon verbs, coloration and all. Plus, Michael from Exponential designed the Lexicon verbs right? He should know how to get that sound. OK I will do try this one too. |
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Post by henge on Aug 6, 2015 18:53:34 GMT -6
I would demo the R2. It is supposed to be more like the vintage lexicon verbs, coloration and all. Plus, Michael from Exponential designed the Lexicon verbs right? He should know how to get that sound. Yes he did. R2 is like a modern Lexicon to my ears... |
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 7, 2015 7:07:29 GMT -6
So it was not hard to judge the plugs.
I will go first with the Lexicons.
First of all I do like the sound, the wander/spin of the tails, and I do like the slight dark attitude all the Algos have.
But the Algo "Random-Hall" is something very special, never heard something sit in a mix like this.
Even if you put on too much the lead vocal stays in the middle.
I have influence over the tail reflection-pattern in detail.
I like this.
Another pro Lexicon PCM Native argument is the extremely soft CPU load; - well done!!
Altiverb in comparison is a true CPU hog.
I like this and I cant say that the R2 was bad.
My taste simple tends to the Lexicons.
I am sure I may will buy P-Reverb later.
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Post by ardis on Aug 19, 2015 14:18:10 GMT -6
An odd one is SKNote Rev250 which emulates the old EMI digital reverb. I like the sound a lot and is quite different from VVV that I also heartily recommend.
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Post by rickcarson on Aug 19, 2015 23:29:51 GMT -6
I own a Bricasti and for me its usually Valhalla and UAD I was just speaking to Dan D about this yesterday. Dont get me wrong the bricasti is cool i just dont know if its $$$$ drum room cool when valhalla is just as good.
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 21, 2015 5:45:05 GMT -6
I own a Bricasti and for me its usually Valhalla and UAD I was just speaking to Dan D about this yesterday. Dont get me wrong the bricasti is cool i just dont know if its $$$$ drum room cool when valhalla is just as good. Give it to me if you think some cheap plug ins are just as good as the M7....  I just heard the YT demo which Casey did, and I had the impression that the M7 is a sweet thing for helping to create a real space feeling. Some people also have three or four of the M7s. They are used to help a tracked orchestra as well, that says something about the reverb quality. Did send you my mail information I am happy to get an M7 for free... In other words I wish I could afford one, maybe next year new pay checks... |
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Post by rickcarson on Aug 21, 2015 5:57:37 GMT -6
Hey I know a bunch of people are using it. Doesnt change anything about it for me. Also I saw some photos of CLA mixing the new trapt record yesterday at his place. It was an effects ghost town. All the sony dre's were gone and not in the room. The Bricasti and but h3000's were off. As well as his second line 6 echo pro and both marshall's and the ams gear. I still saw the EMT 246 and 252 and the yamaha rev 1 were on. Im assuming he still had the 480l on but it sits on another desk. Either way. There were alot of sends in protools. I know a bunch of people dig the box, thats why I bought it. Im just saying for me personally there is alot of great stuff out there.
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 21, 2015 15:27:00 GMT -6
Verb is a big taste thing at the moment I could not be more happy as with the PCM bundle which I got for a super discount price of 240 Euro.....
And yupp I stated selling some of the HW verbs.
Maybe you have to use the M7 longer?
If you still dont like it, and money is no issue for you, I will have a use for it.
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Post by swurveman on Aug 22, 2015 7:32:08 GMT -6
Verb is a big taste thing at the moment I could not be more happy as with the PCM bundle which I got for a super discount price of 240 Euro..... And yupp I stated selling some of the HW verbs. Maybe you have to use the M7 longer? I have an M7 as well and struggle with deciding whether it is worth the price. The problem is that you have to bounce a lot to get the full use of it if you are creating a lot of separate sounding verb-based spaces, which stops you from getting a real-time sense of the M7's plates, rooms, halls etc.. I'm simply not good enough at this point to be able to sculpt reverb without context, and I'm not able to spend 6K on two more verbs.. So, I typically just use the Bricasti Studio A as a room verb to create the perception that the band is all in one space. That being said, it does a wonderful job jelling the sounds as a room verb and I do not use a lot of verb anyway. So, I'm keeping it. |
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 23, 2015 16:18:00 GMT -6
May you try the pcm bundle too??
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