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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 7:51:42 GMT -6
Ben from Harrison had an on-the-fly interview with Chris Raines in Google Hangouts, and i was seemingly the fortunate (only?) one who saw it on youtube today, as an unwanted feature of Hangouts it was accidently available as a vid. LOL. Just the moment i posted it here, they shut the vid down. Ben explained this in the Harrison forum a few minutes ago, it was not meant for publication. They may re-post after Mixbus 3 launch again, but want to provide better introductory material at the time of launch.
Some information and impressions from my side, since i saw it partly in action: Next version mixbus will be available as 64-bit application. Mixbus 3 will take advantage of multi-core processors now. It will have MIDI and virtual instrument support now. The graphical interface looked darker and more condensed and clean, not completely different, so i consider version upgrade wouldn't break your existing workflow *at all*. Bus routing in the channels now line up very cleanly, better as in 2.5. In the console view, you can simply group channels now, which is a very cool feature. Ben said, the compressor and limiter have a completely new algo now, that allows for much more colour, the limiter now acts also as a real brickwaller unlike the one in 2.5, so i *guess* it may have inter-sample peak detection now. While they left the leveler algorithm original to maintain the transparency of it, great for riding vocals etc... And many, many more...it's been a long interview ~45 min.or so and i do not remember too much, please excuse, english is not my mother tongue.
So, stay tuned, it looked very exciting and promising!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 30, 2015 7:52:59 GMT -6
says the video is private
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 7:57:47 GMT -6
Thanks Johnkenn, does it work now for you?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 30, 2015 8:01:19 GMT -6
Still not working...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 8:24:50 GMT -6
OK guys, now i am locked out of the vid myself. Will try to contact Chris Raines if it's possible to make the vid publicly available again. Maybe i am the only one who ever saw it right now, LOL. has been a live stream skype interview from 3 days ago. Will edit 1st post...
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Post by b1 on Jun 30, 2015 8:45:43 GMT -6
Is this it:
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Post by b1 on Jun 30, 2015 8:50:23 GMT -6
Hey, that's Linux compatible!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 8:55:13 GMT -6
Yes, it is Linux compatible. And no, it WAS another video. Please look at post 1, i edited and explained it. Looks like i had a very private preview! One thing is for sure already - i WILL upgrade to 3.
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Post by b1 on Jun 30, 2015 8:57:33 GMT -6
Hmm, it's only 64 bit on Linux.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 9:01:33 GMT -6
Now, this is true for V.2.5, but..... :-)
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Post by keymod on Jun 30, 2015 10:49:16 GMT -6
Was there any hint of controller compatability? Any word on the dedicated Harrison controller?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 12:36:15 GMT -6
Not yet. Not that i remember. But - AFAIK, the fader control surface part of Mixbus was directly the support of the underlying Ardour version. The knob and button support works already much better and was Harrison's part AFAIK. AND Ardour had vastly improved in the meantime, MIDI support and control surface stuff.
As far as i could see, it looks pretty much like Ardour 3.5 or even 4.0. Also, Harrison mentioned before, that there is quite some information around Ardour nightly builds. I have the strong feeling it will be built around Ardour 4 final.... Ben also wrote before, that they experiment already with a controller board for control surfaces but that these will not be developed too much right now, because they concentrate on the Mixbus 3 release. Because this is the product, that the controller will be made for.... I would not be surprised at all, if Mixbus 3 will support more than the Mackie/Logic protocol, but also HUI. I guess i already read s.t. like that in the Mixbus forum previously.
There is little information about anything like feature lists, nothing on release date etc.pp.. Harrison obviously wants to hold back everything until the actual launch. No word about release dates, "ready if it's ready". I am pretty sure it will be worth it.
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Post by spock on Jun 30, 2015 14:26:49 GMT -6
I'm super curious about Mixbus, I have it on my new RADAR Studio and wonder if the upgrade will installed for me. I'll start a new thread to see what's people's thoughts are on it as a system.
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Post by keymod on Jun 30, 2015 14:58:16 GMT -6
Barry Henderson FROM IZ Corp, as well as Ben from Harrison, both intimated that Mixbus 3 would be a free upgrade for people who buy Radar Studio. Totally jealous. I have Radar 24 and would love to upgrade to Radar Studio.
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Post by spock on Jun 30, 2015 22:00:11 GMT -6
Barry Henderson FROM IZ Corp, as well as Ben from Harrison, both intimated that Mixbus 3 would be a free upgrade for people who buy Radar Studio. Totally jealous. I have Radar 24 and would love to upgrade to Radar Studio. DO the upgrade, I did from RADAR 24, and it's fantastic! Using my cards from the RADAR 24 in the RADAR Studio, 10 years on! Anyway back to the thread topic.
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Post by ericn on Jul 1, 2015 7:07:07 GMT -6
Mic buss is the best bargain on earth!
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Post by papag on Jul 7, 2015 17:08:03 GMT -6
Looks like Harrison are now in the process of sending out the version 2 to version 3 update emails,.
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Post by winetree on Jul 7, 2015 18:36:35 GMT -6
I've been working on Harrison Consoles since 1981 and currently own 3 of them. Mixbus is like working on my console with the analog sound. I will definitely upgrade to Ver 3. I'm still debating if I'll upgrade my Radar V (24/96) to the new Studio. I need to finish the remodel of the analog room first.
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Post by gouge on Jul 7, 2015 19:01:33 GMT -6
can someone giv me the sales pitch on this. i can't see how it is any different to say reaper which has been 64bit for years now.
is it just that the harrison plugs sound nice or is there some fundamentl difference in the way the daw works. i like the jib of it;s jab but i can't see how running something like reaper with emulation plugs is any different.
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Post by ericn on Jul 7, 2015 19:43:23 GMT -6
I've been working on Harrison Consoles since 1981 and currently own 3 of them. Mixbus is like working on my console with the analog sound. I will definitely upgrade to Ver 3. I'm still debating if I'll upgrade my Radar V (24/96) to the new Studio. I need to finish the remodel of the analog room first. You know you want to do it! Best reason I can think of is to do the upgrade while they still support it !
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Post by winetree on Jul 7, 2015 21:20:08 GMT -6
can someone giv me the sales pitch on this. i can't see how it is any different to say reaper which has been 64bit for years now. is it just that the harrison plugs sound nice or is there some fundamentl difference in the way the daw works. i like the jib of it;s jab but i can't see how running something like reaper with emulation plugs is any different. Harrison started making analog consoles in the '70s and later took their analog sound technology and moved into their digital consoles. Still making analog and digital consoles, They took their digital technology and turned it into Mixbus. Basically an analog sounding digital I.T.B. recording console. The mix screen looks and sounds like an analog console. You could do an entire mix without any plugins (san maybe reverb) as the console has everything else. It's not that it's 64 bit, or the plug ins, it' the entire architecture and years of experience of making recording consoles. I don't know where Reaper came from or what it sounds like, But I do like the workflow and sound of Mixbus.
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Post by gouge on Jul 7, 2015 22:12:39 GMT -6
but isn't the console a digital mix buss with analogue emulations built in. isn't it the same as using any daw and loading up channel/tape/comp emulations on each channel/buss.
I'm not trying to by smart here, I'm genuinely interested. if Harrison have reinvented the daw by building in crosstalk etc on a channel level then I'd be very keen to try it.
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Post by winetree on Jul 8, 2015 0:12:38 GMT -6
No. All digital doesn't sound the same. Proven by the controversy on this forum about the ad/da converter shootouts . Why do digital converters sound different? Why do plug ins sound different? Why do different D.A.W. programs sound different? I can't answer that. I don't know. But I don't think that cross talk makes digital sound like analog. I'm an old analog guy that sat behind an analog console and recorded to tape for 40 years. Mixbus makes me like I.T.B. digital. That's all I can say. Try it you might like it.
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Post by jeromemason on Jul 8, 2015 0:59:22 GMT -6
If they've gotten the workflow improved I may just switch to this. It's the best sounding DAW there is, and it does feel like you're working from a console. I may just edit in PT and then mix in MIxbus. There would be a level of commitment as well, and that also helps me to mix better. I will be definitely getting it when it drops, hopefully soon.
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Post by gouge on Jul 8, 2015 1:19:38 GMT -6
I'm the first to jump up and down and say that nothing sounds the same both analogue and digital regardless of how much people try and present otherwise.
but, still I'm curious as to why things don't sound the same and what gives mixbuss it's uniqueness. to be honest you saying to me it makes you like itb is pretty good that i'll give it a go.
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