Does everything work on Yosemite now?

The word I've heard is don't even think about it for audio without an SSD system disk.

Yikes. No thanks.

No prob running Logic. Honestly, why bother with pro tools at all, unless it's for clients.

I have mavericks on my studio computer and occasionally write up there. It would be nice to have the cloud working so I could just pull up lyrics without all the emailing...

I run Yosemite and Logic Pro x.... No issues. But the answer is most likely in the first few words of that sentence. Both made by the same manufacturer.

I have had plenty of problems on plenty of different operating systems, daws and hardware platforms.

When you take a moment to think about the fact that you might be running a daw, on an operating system, using a plug in, on hardware setup, with a video card, all made by different manufacturers...it's amazing anything works at all. 8)

If we treated computers like we do outboard in a sense, in that you purchase and get running a stable system and leave the thing alone, you could very likely have a 10 year trouble free existence. You could even have a brand new built machine sitting on the shelf ready to go. 8)

Most problems I have ever come across.. I said most, are not hardware failures, they are either operator error (by far and large) or problems that are interaction issues between software entities.

Best computer I ever used, Atari 520st that I upgraded to 1024. Never ever ever had a problem.

8)


Bit impractical now though

8)

Cheers

Wiz

But but but it won't let me run the latest audio improver 7000 plugin

I'm running Mountain Lion on my Mac Pro 2008 home machine, and Yosemite on my recent Macbook Pro/Apollo Twin machine. Both are running well with DP 8 and native and UAD plugs. I have not experienced any of the grief people have under Mavericks and iMacs. I have a 1T SSD in the laptop.
I waited to upgrade to UAD Console v.2 until they supported hot plugging. 

I get an occasional crash under heavy processor demand mixing but I'm pretty good about saving work regularly. 

The gear is impressive these days. With a laptop and minimum hardware, you've got much more capability than you'd have any right to, even 3 years ago.

I'm going almost the exact same thing. My studio computers are 2013 (Westmere) and 2009 (Nehalem) and I upgraded them to Mountain Lion 10.7.5 and everything is running "tickity boo". And have the latest on my macbook pro that I am tying from now.


That is such a true statement. Even 2 years ago, I could still hear the jitter, whirr and artifacts in everything above 10K done on a laptop. It has improved tremendously. It used to drive me crazy! Everytime I would hear that 'sound'... I just knew it was done on a portable machine.

Dr, Bill, no offense intended here, but I don't get part of this, what does "stable" mean away? 99.9 % of the issues I've ever had were either my fault or caused by software manufacturers like Slate or Relab.

If stable means it works every day for three years, every time I turn it on, and auto saves, so I never lose anything, then Logic is stable. Hey, y'now, personal preference is fine, but saying pro tools is "stable" and by inference, Logic isn't, seems to be wishful thinking to me.

I've seen thousands and thousands of issues people keep having with pro tools as I've joined the audio production community. Logic needs better annotation, for sure, but I've never had a single serious issue sharing files with pro tools users, or cubase, or whatever. I've never bothered to learn pro tools, and probably will one day, just to have a look. Maybe I'll like it. I'm not a fanboy, I don't care if aliens from Mars sent a new DAW from space, if it's better, I'd try it.

 Many of the plugs Logic simply gives you, work as well or better than Waves or UAD, so I feel that anyone choosing a DAW right now could do much worse than Logic. Why not start with a huge free plug in toolkit, and then cherry pick only the essential plugs from other companies. I paid as much for one plug in, (Slate's FG-X), as I paid for all of Logic. It didn't run in 64 bits for two years, meanwhile I used substitutes, and Logic's new compressors are better IMO, and I have six to choose from, so I wish I'd never wasted $200 on a plug that can't legitimately claim to be any better than Logic's free plug. And this is just one very small example of how susceptible I was to hype.

Not to mention the entire orchestral suite and the 30 drummers, and the guitar plugs being as good as every one I've heard with one exception.

I must admit I don't have much experience with Prol Tools, so I can't speak with authority about it. If I knew both programs equally well, I might like Lro Tools better.i

Because I've never had any compatibility issues with pro tools or Cubase users, I figured Logic for $200, with massive high quality plug ins as a give away seems like a smart move.

I haven't followed closely, but many pro tool users I know have had lots of pain from it.

*Sorry about the typos I corrected, I couldn't get to the "edit post" page from my iPhone.

There's a lot of confusion between the requirements of 32 bit Pro Tools and 64 bit. Early on digidesign had to write their own disk routines in order to reliably read and write massive amounts of audio to ordinary hard drives. This meant requiring very specific system hardware. With the 64 bit engine they are using mostly generic system level resources so there are no longer the huge compatibility issues of the old 32 bit versions. They also have many corporate customers who require support for very specific hardware as part of their purchase orders. This misleads people into thinking Pro Tools won't work on "unsupported" computers. I've been using it since support for outboard converters began in the early '90s. Out of those 25 years, I've only run it on a supported" system for around five.