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Post by ngallio on Jun 2, 2015 18:19:04 GMT -6
HI all,
I'd like to build some gobos this summer.
I track in non-studio spaces very often (client's houses and other non conventional spaces) and would like to achieve some more "separation" when more than one performer wants to record in the same room.
I'd like to get some advice on the gobos' dimensions.
My idea would be to build three different heights, while having the same width (3.3 ft width) for portability and modularity
1) one height for the drumset: what do you reckon would be a good height for that?
mind that the gobos will NOT be transparent..
2) one height for musicians sitting on chairs, what's your suggested height? (these could serve also for shielding amps maybe..)
3) one height for a singer (?)
don't know really how should I play this.. since for the gobo to be effective it would cover the singer's sightline..
Maybe I should put a plexiglass window in this one? Maybe too much effort and just do without a singer's gobo..
In fact it almost never happens to me to need to record the singer with the other instruments in the same room..
what do you think?
thanks
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Post by ngallio on Jun 6, 2015 5:30:08 GMT -6
please allow me to gently bump this question up....
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Post by tonycamphd on Jun 6, 2015 7:44:48 GMT -6
Build frames at 4.5"d for standard 703, 4" 2x4 sizes, and devise a stacking system of building blocks, u should be able to put a single unit 4' or 2' high direction on its own, cover in material, then cut 2'x4' inserts out of 1/8" hardboard with a few Velcro tabs on one side to stick to the material if u need a relfective gobo.
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Post by Randge on Jun 6, 2015 8:14:18 GMT -6
I have recently built 4 for my studio. I wish I would have just bought these instead. It would have been a whole lot easier and quicker. They are certainly priced affordable compared to other companies. Check out their absorbers and diffusers in individual packages as well. hofa-akustik.de/module/mobilwand/ |
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Post by drew571 on Jun 6, 2015 11:48:46 GMT -6
Range, do they ship to USA? Or do you live in Europe?
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Post by wiz on Jun 6, 2015 15:33:14 GMT -6
I have recently built 4 for my studio. I wish I would have just bought these instead. It would have been a whole lot easier and quicker. They are certainly priced affordable compared to other companies. Check out their absorbers and diffusers in individual packages as well. hofa-akustik.de/module/mobilwand/I just watched the video on their site, beautiful and elegant design and easy to put together. look really great. cheers Wiz |
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Post by Randge on Jun 6, 2015 19:38:55 GMT -6
Range, do they ship to USA? Or do you live in Europe? I am pretty sure they ship world wide. I am gonna order some things soon, so Imwill let you know. I live in Nashville, Tn. |
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Post by ngallio on Jun 6, 2015 19:47:48 GMT -6
Thanks all, My attempt will definitely be in the DIY area, and in the cheap neighbor, to be more specific.. I was planning some very VERY basic structures with a thick sheet of plywood (1.5cm?) and pyramid foam on one or both sides. I currently don't think I can afford to do more. Maybe I could just use some thicker, more broad band absorber in a frame, as tonycamphd kindly suggested but I would want to use some non-rockwool material, due to toxicity concerns. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jun 6, 2015 20:07:55 GMT -6
Thanks all, My attempt will definitely be in the DIY area, and in the cheap neighbor, to be more specific.. I was planning some very VERY basic structures with a thick sheet of plywood (1.5cm?) and pyramid foam on one or both sides. I currently don't think I can afford to do more. Maybe I could just use some thicker, more broad band absorber in a frame, as tonycamphd kindly suggested but I would want to use some non-rockwool material, due to toxicity concerns. ultratouch cotton insulation, you can nap on it when your tired 8) |
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Post by ngallio on Jun 6, 2015 20:52:52 GMT -6
Thanks all, My attempt will definitely be in the DIY area, and in the cheap neighbor, to be more specific.. I was planning some very VERY basic structures with a thick sheet of plywood (1.5cm?) and pyramid foam on one or both sides. I currently don't think I can afford to do more. Maybe I could just use some thicker, more broad band absorber in a frame, as tonycamphd kindly suggested but I would want to use some non-rockwool material, due to toxicity concerns. ultratouch cotton insulation, you can nap on it when your tired 8) that's super-nice.. I bet one can wear it too. I don't think I can access that in Italy but I have found some suitable replacement.. |
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Post by gouge on Jun 6, 2015 21:33:37 GMT -6
tony's solution is definitely the way to go.
pyramid foam is just wasting your coin.
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Post by Randge on Jun 7, 2015 7:09:20 GMT -6
The pyramid foam will be completely wasting your money. There are many DIY options on YouTube to watch and do it right.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jun 7, 2015 10:11:13 GMT -6
4" pyramid foam of a 2lbs+ density is good for soaking hi freq's, but not much more.
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Post by Randge on Jun 8, 2015 7:38:59 GMT -6
Nothing below 2K I would say. Here is a pic of the new gobos here at Slack Key. A lot of work, but they do the job! They are made with 45 degree angles, so I can wrap them around a performer or spin them around and have a straight wall. Its hard to tell in the picture, but there are 4 of them with two being ones with windows. I am ordering fabric to make some 1" panels that will velcro on the windows. They will have smaller holes to still see through the glass, but drop the glass reflection if I need it. I did put the inner glass in at angles and the outside glass is straight. It helped to cut down the glare.  |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jun 8, 2015 8:44:08 GMT -6
Nothing below 2K I would say. Here is a pic of the new gobos here at Slack Key. A lot of work, but they do the job! They are made with 45 degree angles, so I can wrap them around a performer or spin them around and have a straight wall. Its hard to tell in the picture, but there are 4 of them with two being ones with windows. I am ordering fabric to make some 1" panels that will velcro on the windows. They will have smaller holes to still see through the glass, but drop the glass reflection if I need it. I did put the inner glass in at angles and the outside glass is straight. It helped to cut down the glare. Damn Randy! That looks killer! |
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Post by Randge on Jun 8, 2015 11:47:20 GMT -6
They are nice and I am very happy to have them. I still have to finish them out (on the inside) with 703 and Guilford Of Maine material and they will be ready to go. If I had it to do over, I would have bought the Hofa walls, I think. I could have been tracking right away. Its good to know how to build it though. That experience bleeds over into other projects and you only get better.
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Post by dmp on Jun 9, 2015 9:18:17 GMT -6
Hi Range,
Where did you get the wheels?
Looks great.
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Post by Randge on Jun 9, 2015 15:18:13 GMT -6
Casters plus on Elm Hill Pike here in Nashville, Tn.
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Post by tasteliketape on Jun 10, 2015 20:00:38 GMT -6
I'm getting ready to build some with ultra touch and loaded vinyl
I've found sheets of loaded vinyl local 2x4 for 12 dollars a sheet so I'm thinking of building 2x4 blocks that are stackable
just not sure if I'm going to build them 4 inch thick or 6 inch
it will be loaded vinyl in middle air gap then ultra touch. both sides then fabric cover
any opinions?
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Post by tasteliketape on Jun 18, 2015 21:51:35 GMT -6
Attachment Deletednot finished yet went with 1x6. 2 inch ultra touch both sides limp.mass in middle air gap between ultra touch and limp mass just need to stain
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Post by Randge on Jun 19, 2015 8:20:42 GMT -6
Looks great! You could even mount the slip lock hinges on them to butt them tight together and be able so separate them whenever you want to as well.
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