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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 2, 2013 21:51:38 GMT -6
I know this equine has been flogged, but what are some suggestions for workhorse eq? I've been using Fabfilter Pro Q, but sometimes it's just not getting me where I want to go. I love the interface though...Any thoughts?
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 2, 2013 22:06:56 GMT -6
I use the waves linear phase eq's for big jobs ITB, I like it as much as any ITB eq, it seems pretty transparent to me, i'd like to know how it compares to the fab?, as i've never used it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 22:15:27 GMT -6
When you say workhorse, for me, that is not surgical. I always think of the surgical need as problem fixing and the a workhorse as something broader with some flavor.
Personally, I need less options when shaping a mix, until I hit a snag. I tend to use something like Waves APi and when I need another option. I reach in the plugin bag for a Softube pultec or something graphical and surgical like Q10.
Care to share more about your workflow and need?
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 2, 2013 22:24:05 GMT -6
When you say workhorse, for me, that is not surgical. your right, but it's funny the way we all think differently??, I plan on getting the harrison ford filters going, but in the past i've always used the waves linear phase eq, which is a cpu gobbling beast, but really transparent and accurate...surgical? i've used it primarily for hi/low passing because of it's invisibility. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 22:31:36 GMT -6
Yup, you're right and thats why I ask.
You don't like any color in your EQ, Tony?
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 2, 2013 22:53:38 GMT -6
actually, i love color depending on the situation, love the capi 53eq stuff, subtle but awesome,(sorry, i know this is a plug thread), and neve stuff, but i've never really liked the plug flavors to much, i did enjoy the UAD 1073. I shoot for color from mic, pre, compressor more than eq, as i try to use as little eq as possible, the phasey nasally thing really gets to me, same reason i don't like parallel compression. The most useful eq plug for me has been the linear phase waves plug to clean up or place transparently. i remember notching out a buzz from a mic early on with it, and was amazed at how well it worked, reached for it ever since. One pita though, i had to print a lot in the old days because of cpu gobble for sure! Now i'm moving hybrid, and should be able to use one on every channel if i want..yaay!
sorry for the slightly OT
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Post by popmann on Sept 3, 2013 15:06:41 GMT -6
Why are you surgically EQing? You mixing tracks other people cut poorly?
I use the Waves Low Band for my HPF needs. Low ripple mode. If I were designing my own digital mixer, every channel would use one band of that algorithm as variable HPF. The regular version gets used occasionally on overheads...but, that less like surgery as gentle shaping while maintaining phase with the rest of the kit. I really think FabFilter makes a nice EQ-bonus for mId/side AND linear Phase operation. Mostly, though, 1084 and Pultec emulation (and afford mention HpF) is about all I use as a rule.
Honestly, if you're doing a lot of surgical EQ on things you cut, I'd look more at why....and get to the root of the issue. I've seen people carve up. Lead vocal...and it makes me want to tattoo "never listen to anything I say regarding what a good vocal mic is" on their forehead.
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 3, 2013 16:05:18 GMT -6
Why are you surgically EQing? Hi popman, I think the use of "surgical" was probably a late night mistake written on the thread title, i didn't read one person saying anything about using an eq surgically except me on the one occasion i found a buzz on a vox mic, I used the waves linear phase eq for notching it out, so a linear phase eq is excellent for that right? But i use it also for hi/low passing, A. because i don't have outboard hi quality filters..yet 8), and B. because i like how it doesn't smear adjacent frequencies when i pass. T |
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Post by jazznoise on Sept 3, 2013 16:18:53 GMT -6
Posting in the wrong thread is for special kinds of idiot. Like me.
Move along sheeple, nothing to see here!
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 3, 2013 16:37:09 GMT -6
Man - words are subjective. "Workhorse", "surgical"...
Maybe the question should be, "when you want to pull out -4 db @ 1.3khz, what do you use...?"
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Post by bentley on Sept 3, 2013 17:26:16 GMT -6
My go to is usually the Fabilter but I've kind of been diggin' the BX Digital V2 lately. A bit overkill on some features if you're just looking for a quick cut here and there.
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Post by lolo on Sept 3, 2013 18:13:39 GMT -6
Waves H-Eq is my go to
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 3, 2013 18:27:31 GMT -6
So - waves HEQ - does it only do eq curves from consoles? Is there any way to drag those around free form?
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Post by popmann on Sept 3, 2013 18:51:23 GMT -6
Fari enough. Answer=1081. I'm just not into precision that way I guess. I mean, what's the 1081 got 1.2, 1.5, 1.8? Unless you're notching (see surgical first point), I just don't find there's enough difference to justify. I should try the H-Eq....can I get a high band from a Pultec? I like the idea of a single EQ. Filters of the 1081....proportional mids of the APIs...and a nice oversampled high air of the Pultec. I guess I should mention I have some Specks I employ sometimes when digital EQ just "doesn't". Got them for tracking, honestly, but...I do find on occasion that I will fiddle with digital EQ and go back and forth....not liking it...insert Specks and dial it in in seconds. I kinda figure it's as much about my growing up mixing analog....maybe the plug ins are "too right"...and I'm used to the nice phase distortions and inaccuracy of frequency of analog....who knows? What I DO know is I NEVER went back and forth on a desk. Listen. What does it need? Do it. Next? I mean there's be an occasional overcorrection or something as the mix progressed, but I sometimes think that the smart ones just stay analog because they have things they want to do OTHER than mix.  But....I digress...as I tend to do... |
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 3, 2013 19:06:02 GMT -6
just checked out a fab filter proQ demo, looks pretty powerful and easy to use, gonna down load the demo i think.
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Post by category5 on Sept 3, 2013 19:56:37 GMT -6
Surprised nobody mentioned DMG Equilibrium. If I was buying a software EQ today that'd be at the top of the list.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 4, 2013 10:18:16 GMT -6
I've got the Pro-Q and it's my go-to ITB surgical EQ.
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Post by henge on Sept 4, 2013 15:19:13 GMT -6
Surprised nobody mentioned DMG Equilibrium. If I was buying a software EQ today that'd be at the top of the list. I was just going to mention Equilibrium! Demo'd it and it was an excellent EQ. Very powerful. |
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Post by joey808 on Sept 4, 2013 22:55:23 GMT -6
Loving the fabfilter, Dmg and brainworx here!
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Post by svart on Sept 5, 2013 9:44:36 GMT -6
I rarely use plugs anymore but my SSL DSP card uses SSL branded Soundscape plugins which are great. I think they ended up being the Sonnox plugins.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Sept 6, 2013 13:01:07 GMT -6
Man, I gotta look around more. I have the Waves Linear Phase EQ's, H- EQ's, but have never even looked at them. In Logic, there's a very convenient EQ analyzer that shows you an EQ graph, and you can the cut or boost at any of those frequencies from it. It's as transparent as can be. I take "surgical" to mean a very specific small band that needs repair, I would say "workhorse", when referring to the general flavor EQ. I use Waves SSL on half my tracks, it has a nice tone running through it, and an easy to operate LPF.
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Post by drumrec on Sept 6, 2013 17:56:17 GMT -6
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But....I digress...as I tend to do...
