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Post by lolo on Apr 28, 2015 0:16:21 GMT -6
What do you guys suggest for a DI? Just for Electric GTR and Bass. Cannot spend to much at this stage  Currently using the DI on my Heritage 73jr. Really like it. Bud I also want to track Electrics and Bass through some other pre's that dont have Di's. If i want to record a direct signal and don't go though a amp. Radial passive Di's? what else do ya all use or recommend? |
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Post by odyssey76 on Apr 28, 2015 7:11:50 GMT -6
What do you guys suggest for a DI? Just for Electric GTR and Bass. Cannot spend to much at this stage Currently using the DI on my Heritage 73jr. Really like it. Bud I also want to track Electrics and Bass through some other pre's that dont have Di's. If i want to record a direct signal and don't go though a amp. Radial passive Di's? what else do ya all use or recommend? I like the Countryman Type 85 for clean. No color to speak of just a really accurate sound of your source. Get the color (or not) from your preamp of choice. I absolutely love the DI in my Great River pre. Might be more than you want to spend but you do get a terrific preamp to boot. Full and tight without muddy lower mids and beautiful top end and big detailed mids.....insert more cliches here. |
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Post by matt on Apr 28, 2015 7:23:34 GMT -6
Larger budget: Dan's ID DI. Sweet sweet sweet, it nearly finishes bass guitar all by itself.
Limited budget: Radial JDI. Gets the job done, sans mojo.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 28, 2015 8:40:39 GMT -6
What Matt said. Although I would get the active jdi. You're gonna be hard-pressed to get a better time than that Heritage, although Dan's tube version is sweet on bass.
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 28, 2015 17:27:45 GMT -6
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Post by WKG on Apr 28, 2015 18:18:09 GMT -6
Radial JDI for passive and Avenson IsoDI for active here.
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Post by winetree on Apr 28, 2015 20:19:15 GMT -6
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Post by Ward on Apr 28, 2015 20:39:07 GMT -6
You want a passive DI with no color if your expressed purpose is to run it into other preamps and use their color. The Radial is an EXCELLENT choice. I've had some since Benjamin Franklin was a boy. Not at all my faves but they sure are transparent.
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Post by lolo on Apr 29, 2015 9:14:36 GMT -6
yeah i was thinking Radial JDI. Dont need extra colour
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Post by lolo on Apr 29, 2015 9:26:58 GMT -6
What about the Radial Pro DI? half the price of the JDI, also a passive box. Anyone use it?
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Post by mobeach on Apr 29, 2015 15:00:23 GMT -6
The Countryman has been the industry standard for a long time.
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Post by junior on Apr 29, 2015 17:25:50 GMT -6
Red Eye and IBP here... Radial's good too... good luck!
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 29, 2015 19:12:38 GMT -6
What about the Radial Pro DI? half the price of the JDI, also a passive box. Anyone use it? Had one and didn't like it at all |
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Post by lolo on Apr 29, 2015 22:00:41 GMT -6
What about the Radial Pro DI? half the price of the JDI, also a passive box. Anyone use it? Had one and didn't like it at all Jk what about about didnt you like? Im just after a clean signal into say my Vp28 or D4 etc.... Dont need a "sound" from the DI |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 29, 2015 22:50:36 GMT -6
I seemed to get a "farty" sound out of it when pushed...could have been user error, but it was the only device I could coax that sound out of.
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Post by Ward on Apr 30, 2015 6:02:56 GMT -6
The Countryman has been the industry standard for a long time. Yeah, and for good reason. But the OP is asking for as little color as possible from the DI so that the preamp provides the hue! The countryman is awesome but (if memory serves me correctly) it has phantom power feeding 2 FETs. I mean, yes of course it has phantom power... but I mean I seem to recall there being two Field Effect Transistors in them. Which is where the countryman color mostly comes from. |
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Post by mobeach on Apr 30, 2015 8:34:26 GMT -6
The Countryman has been the industry standard for a long time. Yeah, and for good reason. But the OP is asking for as little color as possible from the DI so that the preamp provides the hue! The countryman is awesome but (if memory serves me correctly) it has phantom power feeding 2 FETs. I mean, yes of course it has phantom power... but I mean I seem to recall there being two Field Effect Transistors in them. Which is where the countryman color mostly comes from. Personally I run all active basses and guitars so I go direct into the interface, in my case it's a PCIe card. When I use passive guitars I just use flat settings on my tube preamp. The only time I've used a DI was live performances. I had a Sansamp but I thought it sounded brittle. |
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Post by Ward on Apr 30, 2015 8:36:58 GMT -6
Yeah, and for good reason. But the OP is asking for as little color as possible from the DI so that the preamp provides the hue! The countryman is awesome but (if memory serves me correctly) it has phantom power feeding 2 FETs. I mean, yes of course it has phantom power... but I mean I seem to recall there being two Field Effect Transistors in them. Which is where the countryman color mostly comes from. Personally I run all active basses and guitars so I go direct into the interface, in my case it's a PCIe card. When I use passive guitars I just use flat settings on my tube preamp. The only time I've used a DI was live performances. I had a Sansamp but I thought it sounded brittle. I really don't like the sansamp sound at all. I don't or can't hear what any sansamp lover finds even slightly appealing in the units. They should name their units after soda flavors based on all the fizz in them. |
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Post by mobeach on Apr 30, 2015 11:03:31 GMT -6
Personally I run all active basses and guitars so I go direct into the interface, in my case it's a PCIe card. When I use passive guitars I just use flat settings on my tube preamp. The only time I've used a DI was live performances. I had a Sansamp but I thought it sounded brittle. I really don't like the sansamp sound at all. I don't or can't hear what any sansamp lover finds even slightly appealing in the units. They should name their units after soda flavors based on all the fizz in them. I sold mine after 3 weeks. |
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Post by jimwilliams on Apr 30, 2015 13:45:18 GMT -6
For any active electric guitar or bass, the jensen DB transformer is pretty good. I think Radial bought out Jensen since they used so many. They also are excellent for active keyboards, the nickle smooths out some of those insect sounds.
Those have a 180k input impedance, a bit too low for any passive instrument. The results are a low pass effect, rolled off tops. Put a jfet in front or opamp and then the input impedance will be high enough, I like 2.2 meg ohms for most of them. Almost any decent low noise active DI will work for guitar, bass is another story.
Bass requires extra current for a full low end, many active DI's are current starved from 10 ma of phantom power. AC powered designs are free of that effect and will give a deeper low end, more bass energy if you like that sort of thing.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 30, 2015 15:07:19 GMT -6
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