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Post by masteroftracks on Aug 30, 2013 12:59:40 GMT -6
A new version just came out and I was thinking of checking it out. I have been a long time Nuendo user but was curious about something new. Any experience with it out there?
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Post by henge on Aug 30, 2013 13:39:09 GMT -6
Yup using it every day here! The demo is fully uncrippled, so give it a try.
There will be a learning curve though, just like any other daw.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 8:46:08 GMT -6
I did for years and loved it. Just recently moved to Studio One only for the drag and drop and the all in one ability (mix/master/publish)
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Post by scumbum on Aug 31, 2013 9:10:10 GMT -6
I've been wanting to learn to use it , I have the demo , but I get stuck trying to do something and give up , then I go back to Pro Tools .
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Post by henge on Aug 31, 2013 12:03:09 GMT -6
I've been wanting to learn to use it , I have the demo , but I get stuck trying to do something and give up , then I go back to Pro Tools . This is the problem with trying a new daw!! LOL You try and do the simplest thing and get lost. At least that's what happened to me with Studio 1 and DP8. Then I thought , I'm getting everything done that I need to do and I'm enjoying doing it with great stability. Why change? |
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Post by mobeach on Aug 31, 2013 14:05:46 GMT -6
I took right to using it with no problems, Sonar on the other hand was harder for me to grasp, so I'm one of those Sonar to Reaper converts, and I'm glad I did!
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Post by jazznoise on Aug 31, 2013 15:45:24 GMT -6
I've been wanting to learn to use it , I have the demo , but I get stuck trying to do something and give up , then I go back to Pro Tools . Give the automation a go. Total seperation between the fader and the volume automation. I've been using Reaper for 4 years now and I'm still finding new features. It's just so fast and it gets out of your way. You need 8 tracks for recording? Done. You wanna start setting up headphone mixes and reverb sends while the band is setting up and you're recording a clip just to get an idea of what's going on in there? Done. Is the melody or a harmony part a little high or low for the singer and you need some varispeed? Done. Hardware inserts with delay compensation? Free IR reverb? Free Multiband Comp/FFT processor? Wanna flick between multiple takes in milliseconds? Done. I still find the MIDI abit clunky. But that's literally my only complaint. The noise reduction and quanitzation built in is also messy - but you can have "secondary editors" set up and so I usually open the file in Adobe or Ableton, depending on relevance, do the work click save and go back to my session. 2 clicks and you have a noisey file open in Adobe. The whole thing becomes a minutes work. |
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Post by masteroftracks on Aug 31, 2013 15:52:39 GMT -6
Downloaded the demo and started getting into it. So far the work flow in Nuendo seems much more intuitive but the routing and flexibility in Reaper has certainly got something going on. It seems Reaper is highly customizable. But henge has a point. I try to do the simplest thing and the whole approach is different and seems to take twice as long.
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Post by henge on Aug 31, 2013 18:49:45 GMT -6
Downloaded the demo and started getting into it. So far the work flow in Nuendo seems much more intuitive but the routing and flexibility in Reaper has certainly got something going on. It seems Reaper is highly customizable. But henge has a point. I try to do the simplest thing and the whole approach is different and seems to take twice as long. What's bugging you about Nuendo? |
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Post by watchtower on Sept 6, 2013 7:23:39 GMT -6
I'm a Reaper user for almost 4 years now. I haven't updated to 4.5 yet, though. I came over from Sonar, since I moved to mac 4 years ago.
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Post by svart on Sept 6, 2013 8:52:56 GMT -6
I've used Reaper since the demo before version 1 and I've never found anything better. In fact, I still use Reaper 2.1 almost every day on the same computer I always have. Never a crash, never a problem. Very lightweight and easy on the RAM. Seamless integration with ASIO drivers and streams from my SSL Alphalink. I mostly use it as a "tape deck" kinda thing but do do a lot of chopping and moving parts around with the occasional volume evolution thrown in.
I don't use a lot of the included plugs but I do use the hell out of the "tonegate" plug for whitenoise gating on undersnare tracks and 50hz sine gating for kickdrums.
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Post by jazznoise on Sept 6, 2013 9:20:05 GMT -6
I don't use a lot of the included plugs but I do use the hell out of the "tonegate" plug for whitenoise gating on undersnare tracks and 50hz sine gating for kickdrums. Glad to know I'm not the only one! |
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Post by scumbum on Sept 6, 2013 9:25:48 GMT -6
I thought Reaper was only PC , thats cool its on MAC too ! I need to mess around with it again . I don't do complex things is Pro Tools . If I could just figure out how to do it in Reaper , I'd use it .
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Post by henge on Sept 6, 2013 10:50:22 GMT -6
I thought Reaper was only PC , thats cool its on MAC too ! I need to mess around with it again . I don't do complex things is Pro Tools . If I could just figure out how to do it in Reaper , I'd use it . What do you want to do |
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Post by scumbum on Sept 6, 2013 15:22:09 GMT -6
I thought Reaper was only PC , thats cool its on MAC too ! I need to mess around with it again . I don't do complex things is Pro Tools . If I could just figure out how to do it in Reaper , I'd use it . What do you want to do Just my basic work flow . I record myself , so for like drums , I record a scratch guitar and vocal to a click , then loop that and record like 10 takes on drums , then find the good takes and do a little editing/comping to make the master drum track . Thats probably the most complicated thing I'd need to learn how to do and also automation during mixing . |
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Post by svart on Sept 6, 2013 15:35:20 GMT -6
Setup the click. Record your part. Select the track or tracks you want to cut up by using the mouse pointer and CTRL(or whatever the apple equivalent is) and then place your time cursor where you want to cut the tracks. hit S to cut the tracks and then move them around as you wish. one done, you can right-click(or whatever the apple equivalent is) and "glue" the highlighted pieces of tracks together into single tracks. You can also select and group tracks and edit them as one. Volume evolution is also easy. There is a little icon in the area near the fader and meter for each track that looks like a waveform. Click this and you'll have options for all kinds of automations from fades, volume, crossfades, mutes, etc. You just make points with your mouse and the lines will follow. You can also render these into the tracks and change the fade types and all kinds of other things.
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Post by scumbum on Sept 6, 2013 16:29:40 GMT -6
Setup the click. Record your part. Select the track or tracks you want to cut up by using the mouse pointer and CTRL(or whatever the apple equivalent is) and then place your time cursor where you want to cut the tracks. hit S to cut the tracks and then move them around as you wish. one done, you can right-click(or whatever the apple equivalent is) and "glue" the highlighted pieces of tracks together into single tracks. You can also select and group tracks and edit them as one. Volume evolution is also easy. There is a little icon in the area near the fader and meter for each track that looks like a waveform. Click this and you'll have options for all kinds of automations from fades, volume, crossfades, mutes, etc. You just make points with your mouse and the lines will follow. You can also render these into the tracks and change the fade types and all kinds of other things. Thanks for the tips , I'll try it out and see what I can do ! |
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Post by henge on Sept 6, 2013 18:01:30 GMT -6
What svart said! Definitely group the drum tracks together before editing. There's an option to view whatever automation, either in the waveform view or below it in it's own separate lane.
I like the automation in it's own lane personally.
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Post by scumbum on Sept 6, 2013 18:31:10 GMT -6
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Post by jazznoise on Sept 7, 2013 7:48:20 GMT -6
I haven't used any of his subscription stuff - but his free stuff is good enough to make me think it's probably worthwhile.
Automation couldn't be easier. Want volume automation? Click a track and press V. Want to automate any parameter of your plugins? Just right click the track and they'll all come up. It's quite fast and I find myself setting up automation lanes before mixing knowing that I might want to change bits like the pre-delay or wet/dry on a flanger or the delay feedback and send amounts etc. etc. Makes doing all the ear candy stuff easier because it's just there in front of you, no fuss.
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Post by henge on Sept 7, 2013 11:00:27 GMT -6
I've never seen them but people find them very useful. They've definitely helped allot of people. Learning a new DAW is such a pain in the ass... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2013 19:03:34 GMT -6
My fav feature in Reaper is the routing matrix. Who else does that?
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Post by popmann on Sept 10, 2013 9:19:10 GMT -6
I've long said Reaper would lose 95% of it's user base if you made the app time out and charged $499 for it.
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Post by svart on Sept 10, 2013 9:24:03 GMT -6
But they won't, because they don't. I paid for my copy many years ago simply because it was less than half the price of the next best thing and did 2x the job of the best thing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 16:41:29 GMT -6
Long ago i was sick of Cubase and Nuendo because of bug-eritis and ignoring good MIDI handling and endless stuff like that.
I was pissed when Logic was stopped for windows and Sounddiver was stopped completely.
Nowadays, i was disappointed by the bad Roland support site when i wanted the Cakewalk Sonar X1/X2 update - it simply did not work in the sales area, f*cked up databases, wrong products sent and sent late and bad customer experience that i was not used to from Cakewalk before Roland bought them. So X2 will be my last update on that. Liked Sonar for the lots of extras in form of quality plugs and functionality that you had to buy additionally in other DAWs.
Never got around Protools, ok, it's industry standard and has *some* nice unique things, some you could not get around, like mixing huge projects with the HD hardware, sure. But they always were late on inventions. Say "64bit", woohoo. Now gone native in the end and dropped their interface hardware "dongle" politics...ok.
Reaper is very functional. Checked it out several times for testing in earlier versions. It has a very good support and they listen to the community's feedback closely. It is small and does everything one could ask of efficiently.
I still try to learn Mixbus and evaluate if i can settle over to ardour daw completely, awaiting Mixbus to jump on ardour 3 to have the midi side of things. But if i cannot get myself to work with it sufficiently, i will switch to Reaper, no doubt.
Has nothing to do with the pricing. I just want to have a functional DAW where i don't get angry about stuff regularly...
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