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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 15, 2015 4:50:22 GMT -6
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Post by M57 on Apr 15, 2015 5:15:15 GMT -6
I know this is true, but it depresses me - not because I don't like it when others are in the room or that my perspective usually turns for the worse, but because it happens so rarely. I've given up with my wife - she just rips things to shreds and can't wait to get out of the room. It's been years - decades really since I've played (original) music with other people. My MO is to lock myself in the studio, work alone, play all the tracks - and only recently - put it out there in some forum for others to listen to. And I often get good advice - but they're not in the room - and I don't get that out-of-body experience.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 15, 2015 5:31:38 GMT -6
I know this is true, but it depresses me - not because I don't like it when others are in the room or that my perspective usually turns for the worse, but because it happens so rarely. I've given up with my wife - she just rips things to shreds and can't wait to get out of the room. It's been years - decades really since I've played (original) music with other people. My MO is to lock myself in the studio, work alone, play all the tracks - and only recently - put it out there in some forum for others to listen to. And I often get good advice - but they're not in the room - and I don't get that out-of-body experience. Someone commented that just posting the file on Soundcloud and listening back from there gives them perspective. Just the thought that the music is now public and anyone can hear it will give you a different set of ears. Not quite the same, but I always burn a cd to crank up in my car for the ride to work. I'll put a handful of tunes in the same style with my tune mixed in. You need to do some crushing limiting to get in the ballpark of the volume, but it's a good eye opener. |
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Post by Ward on Apr 15, 2015 6:17:18 GMT -6
Someone commented that just posting the file on Soundcloud and listening back from there gives them perspective. Just the thought that the music is now public and anyone can hear it will give you a different set of ears. Not quite the same, but I always burn a cd to crank up in my car for the ride to work. I'll put a handful of tunes in the same style with my tune mixed in. You need to do some crushing limiting to get in the ballpark of the volume, but it's a good eye opener. Two brilliant suggestions!! And nothing is more 'undressing' than playing it for other people to listen to outside your control room comfort zone! |
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Post by swurveman on Apr 15, 2015 9:48:26 GMT -6
Not quite the same, but I always burn a cd to crank up in my car for the ride to work. I'll put a handful of tunes in the same style with my tune mixed in. You need to do some crushing limiting to get in the ballpark of the volume, but it's a good eye opener. Great suggestion. As for listening through others ears: I just read a book about the band Semisonic written by the drummer. He said at the time his band was signed his label President brought his 13 year old son to meetings to determine who they were going to sign. My new theory is that for bands that want to get signed, their best bet is to write songs about what 13 year old's want and what 24 year old's wanted when they were 13 and now are happily getting now that they're 24. |
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Post by peteje on Apr 15, 2015 10:01:24 GMT -6
It's a forest for the trees thing. BUT, also, what we experience when we listen is often called "subjective" because hearing is an emotionally attached sense. What we feel like in the moment and, more importantly, past experience and expectations and emotions are attached to our hearing sense and that is an individual thing.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 15, 2015 10:11:25 GMT -6
Yeah - it's interesting isn't it. Nothing will make you listen to a mix better than pitching it to someone. You hear every nook and cranny.
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Post by jdc on Apr 15, 2015 16:14:38 GMT -6
i mix live television every day and i've found the decisions i make in the control room are infinitely easier and more acute than the ones i make sitting at home by myself. it's very frustrating sometimes.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 15, 2015 17:42:29 GMT -6
Great post jcoutou, and food for thought. It happens to me too !
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Post by wiz on Apr 15, 2015 18:31:39 GMT -6
I do this all the time... I sort of found it by accident... it really is astounding how your focus immediately shifts...
Also , I drop the volume way down,.. barely audible... and set kick snare bass and vocal volume there... if I have been working on something for a long stretch... that tends to refocus the earholes.
cheers
Wiz
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