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Post by geoff738 on Apr 12, 2015 13:28:09 GMT -6
What's the most platy (plate-like?) reverb that isn't an actual plate? And, how close do you think they get?
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by Ward on Apr 12, 2015 13:44:25 GMT -6
Waves Rverb architecture isn't too bad. The stock plate setting isn't great, but I worked at it for a while and managed to create a few believable settings for vocal use. And unlike an EMT, no noise.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 12, 2015 14:57:39 GMT -6
I hear people raving about the Nebula Plates. I had it at one time, but through several iterations of Nebula and Cubase, I need to redownload it. Might go up and do that now. I think the UAD Emt 140 is pretty damn good. Also, the Lexicon plates.
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 12, 2015 15:31:45 GMT -6
Youp the UAD EMT saved me several times. I did a GM playalong for my students. It did exactly the SD reverb as heard in the song "Still got the Blues". I could not believe it, but that was when my search for a better plate verb was ovér.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 12, 2015 15:50:31 GMT -6
UAD EMT-140 is excellent.
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Post by deehope on Apr 12, 2015 16:08:17 GMT -6
Vnxt emt 140 for nebula is the best Plate I've ever heard.
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 12, 2015 16:32:39 GMT -6
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Post by Randge on Apr 12, 2015 20:08:58 GMT -6
140 and the 250 are good plug verbs. Used together, they can really work magic.
R
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Post by Randge on Apr 12, 2015 20:11:08 GMT -6
Btw, the stock Cubase 8 verbs sound great when you taylor them to what you are doing. They are fast and efficient regarding time and CPU.
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Post by wiz on Apr 12, 2015 20:40:03 GMT -6
Btw, the stock Cubase 8 verbs sound great when you taylor them to what you are doing. They are fast and efficient regarding time and CPU. Do you have a real plate Randge? cheers Wiz |
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 13, 2015 11:59:43 GMT -6
I wish I once could work with a real EMT 140 I bet this is similar but a very different feel....
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Post by keymod on Apr 13, 2015 12:55:20 GMT -6
I always thought that the Plates from my Kurzweil KSP sound pretty darned good, though I have no way to compare to the real thing.
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Post by Ward on Apr 13, 2015 13:34:31 GMT -6
I wish I once could work with a real EMT 140 I bet this is similar but a very different feel.... Really? Just pretend you did and don't. THE NOISE! OMG... It takes an awful special tech to be able to tune those things and work with all the electronics to keep the noise out of the signal chain. Just use a good emulator and know that you're getting all the best of one without the noise. |
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 13, 2015 14:54:36 GMT -6
I wish I once could work with a real EMT 140 I bet this is similar but a very different feel.... Really? Just pretend you did and don't. THE NOISE! OMG... It takes an awful special tech to be able to tune those things and work with all the electronics to keep the noise out of the signal chain. Just use a good emulator and know that you're getting all the best of one without the noise. WOW..... OK Mhhhhhh. Maybe this is the reason they go for 1 k at ebay... Not to mention the space they need.... Noisy? WOW.... |
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Post by Randge on Apr 14, 2015 11:28:51 GMT -6
Btw, the stock Cubase 8 verbs sound great when you taylor them to what you are doing. They are fast and efficient regarding time and CPU. Do you have a real plate Randge? cheers Wiz No, I have a bunch of rack mounted tube springs from the 60's, a couple of digital ones, a Demeter Spring called "Real Reverb" and effects like the Benado to run stuff through though. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 18:54:45 GMT -6
Well, i heard Nebula programs for plate and spring reverbs (and alot of other well made programs on Nebula platform) that were nothing less than breathtakingly good. And there is an EMT140 program set, that for sure does the job excellently. Some of those program suppliers are that passionate, it's nuts.
Though, the UAD EMT140 was a no-brainer on the UAD-1 i had, just worked. Guess, the new one would not be worse...
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 14, 2015 20:46:34 GMT -6
The EMT-140 gives you that classic sound on acoustic guitars and strings, like Paul O'Dette, Jimmy Page, Pink Floyd, it's dense, and just fills the room beautifully.
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Post by dmp on Apr 17, 2015 9:20:58 GMT -6
I have an Ecoplate and I disagree about the noise. A real plate reverb is magical and awesome.
Before I had a real plate (or heard one), I really struggled with getting good reverb sounds on my last record - finally adding real plate (from a friend's studio) was the 'ah ha' (that's perfect) moment.
So I ended up buying it when it was for sale!
The Waves are decent reverbs but not in the same ballpark, imo.
The closest I've heard is an impulse of the real plate. We did this with two different plates and it is pretty close. It doesn't have all the same magic but it has the same feel.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 17, 2015 17:25:37 GMT -6
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 17, 2015 18:12:42 GMT -6
On a site note its impotant too if I can do creative work with the gear. And that is the case with all canidates we talk about. If a piece of gear does not give that "Why not adding a littlebit of this" moment, it is not inspireing in the mix process….. I like on the UAD Plate that I can use it while tracking…..try this with nebula and you will have a hard time….
For a nice sense of sapce, and dimension, I like using delays too.
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Post by geoff738 on Apr 18, 2015 15:56:11 GMT -6
I always thought that the Plates from my Kurzweil KSP sound pretty darned good, though I have no way to compare to the real thing. I actually have a Rumor, which is the KSPs little brother, and I use it for plates and small spaces, but I don't know if it is the same as the KSP or whether any of the software versions mentioned above would be a marked improvement. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by carymiller on Apr 18, 2015 17:32:59 GMT -6
For the longest time I used the Audio Damage Plugin "Adverb" it's a FANTASTIC plate verb For VST/AU formats. However Audio Damage refuse to port to RTAS/AAX. Currently I use Valhalla DSP "Vintage Verb" since it ports to all formats, as the lead time-based effects programmer/software designer fom Audio Damage started Valhalla. The price for both Verbs is $50 USD...as are all time based effects from both companies. All products from both companies are leagues above Waves and UAD time-based effects and extremely cost effective in my experience, but Valhalla DSP is best for realism Generally. ..however "Adverb" is the best "plate" in most circumstances. Additionally "EOS" from Audio Damage...and all four main TBE from Valhalla are more than worth the $50 each as well though.
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Post by EmRR on Apr 20, 2015 11:45:43 GMT -6
I have an Ecoplate I and III, the biggest and smallest. Noise is hardly a problem. I might hear it a touch in a very spacious and open quiet section of a song, but certainly no more than tape hiss in the same situation. They were the first reverbs I felt I could turn up loud in mix and not be bothered by the sound. The small plate damped all the way down can be used as the entire vocal, no dry signal, if you want a chorusy/short/small room sound that's very present.
I haven't heard most of the emulations out there. The proverb plates in DP are decent, if they fit my needs. I can get by with them on work that will require multiple recalls/remixes with tight deadlines. The advantage over the Ecoplates is purely in the ability to recall exact sound; pre-delays, length, automation moves, etc.
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