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Post by zaiata on Mar 31, 2015 9:23:34 GMT -6
Hello; A friend is offering me the opportunity to buy a Studer A810 or/and a Tascam 32 two channels analog tape recorders. Both are in good working conditions.
I do not have experience using tape for mixdown or with tape in general. I am using Apogee Symphony to Neve 8816, some outboard, to Masterlink to mix down at the moment.
Will I get more open, bigger, analog mojo, rounded sound if I get the A810?
Reading on the subject I found out The Studer is a better "professional" machine.
I will appreciate opinions, suggestions.
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Post by winetree on Mar 31, 2015 9:28:34 GMT -6
Studer would be the best choice. Yes to sound questions.
You'll also need a test tape and learn how to calibrate the machine for best results.
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Post by zaiata on Mar 31, 2015 9:56:50 GMT -6
Thank you so much winetree..
Now I am ore inclined to go with the tape machine for mixdown.
I have to find a way to learn how to calibrate the machine.
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Post by gouge on Mar 31, 2015 10:33:52 GMT -6
can I suggest you also track through it.
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Post by zaiata on Mar 31, 2015 12:07:35 GMT -6
can I suggest you also track through it. Yes.... I imagine will get a nice compression and analog warm...
Now I have to make an offer. Not idea of the fair price for a A810
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Post by ericn on Mar 31, 2015 12:31:42 GMT -6
Honestly it comes down to condition, a 32 with good heads is a better deal than an 810 with worn crapy heads.
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Post by jimwilliams on Mar 31, 2015 12:40:54 GMT -6
Got MRL?
Got tape?
Got tech?
Got time?
There is a reason those are all for sale now.
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Post by mrholmes on Mar 31, 2015 15:47:13 GMT -6
Used a long time the Telefunken M15 A nice to have, and a WOW factor in the studio.
To be true most of the time it was not used, just becasue of beeing too lazy.
Second reason, some of the tape sims act very close like tape.
I use a hybrid aproach.
I simualte from tape in the DAW to the board back into the converter.
To my ears it acts a lot like tape, and I like it.
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Post by carymiller on Mar 31, 2015 15:50:36 GMT -6
Studer would be the best choice. Yes to sound questions. You'll also need a test tape and learn how to calibrate the machine for best results. I concur with Studer being the best choice...though honestly I've been using the Slate VTM paired with a pair of preamps via DI as analog inserts in series after the plugin to emulate tape machines for several years now. I find that if you add something with transformers to the chain you can dial things pretty darn close without having to through all the expense. I used to take old tape recordings I'd done and try to match them for feel and tone that way. |
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Post by zaiata on Apr 1, 2015 19:37:34 GMT -6
Thank you for all the good advice. I am thinking this trough.
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Post by jimwilliams on Apr 2, 2015 9:44:05 GMT -6
You will need a high quality ADC to follow it if you want to release anything.
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Post by svart on Apr 2, 2015 11:26:22 GMT -6
Tape isn't a panacea on it's own. Too many folks talk of the "tape sound" but leave out everything from the actual tape formulation used, to the head quality/biasing of the tape machine, all of which factor in heavily to the "tape sound".
I would absolutely want to test out any tape machine I would buy with many types(brands/models) of tape that you can still get, and see how it sounds.
I know of about a half dozen folks in my area who have bought 2 track tape machines in order to get that "tape sound" that's in vogue in the indie crowds around here. Most of the stuff I've heard borders on cassette tape quality sound, not the big tape sound from the 80's we all think of.
Caveat emptor I say.
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 2, 2015 14:01:31 GMT -6
Tape isn't a panacea on it's own. Too many folks talk of the "tape sound" but leave out everything from the actual tape formulation used, to the head quality/biasing of the tape machine, all of which factor in heavily to the "tape sound". I would absolutely want to test out any tape machine I would buy with many types(brands/models) of tape that you can still get, and see how it sounds. I know of about a half dozen folks in my area who have bought 2 track tape machines in order to get that "tape sound" that's in vogue in the indie crowds around here. Most of the stuff I've heard borders on cassette tape quality sound, not the big tape sound from the 80's we all think of. Caveat emptor I say. True I had to pay a tech who had the knowhow to algin the machine etc. in the end of the day it was over the top for what I am doing. If I want that sound on the 2Bus I choose a mastering house with a MTR... Or I use the best simulation I can get. Once again my advise to try the cheap but good Toneboosters Studer Revox simulation. |
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