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Post by KJ on Mar 26, 2015 23:32:07 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 27, 2015 3:46:00 GMT -6
yes enjoy !
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 27, 2015 9:04:36 GMT -6
I would love to see how svart's box compares.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 27, 2015 10:02:43 GMT -6
I would love to see how svart's box compares. You should pop over to GC and pick one up when the Svartbox arrives. 30 day returns right?
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 14, 2015 19:57:07 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 14, 2015 19:57:15 GMT -6
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Post by LesC on Apr 15, 2015 17:42:18 GMT -6
Yummy I will test it out tonight and see how it performs. Please update us! After my failed attempt with a Lynx Hilo, I will probably give a Pure2 a try. Some GS guys whose opinion I value are saying that the Pure2 conversion is amazing, not better or worse than Burl but a different flavor. The features I like: It's an interface with USB, so it's operating system independent. It's drivers are derived from the Orion and the Zen, which are apparently quite stable and low-latency. This is something that is very important to me, since for about 12 years I've been spoiled by RME's amazing Windows drivers. It has sample rate conversion in both directions, so you can insert a digital device that runs at a different sample rate. I'm thinking of trying the Kemper, bypassing both the Kemper ADC and DAC, while recording at 96 (the Kemper is 44.1) both for recording and reamping. The only other box that can do this, as far as I know, is the Prism Lyra 2. Are there any others? It has SPDIF coax, SPDIF optical, and AES/EBU connectors for digital I/O. It has 3 DACs (including the HP DAC), though you can access only two of them via USB. You can run an analog loop using one DAC while using another DAC to monitor, also running a digital loop simultaneously. It has a relay-controlled analog volume control. This will allow me to get rid of my Dangerous Music Source monitor controller, which uses pots. One thing I HATE is that you can only record two channels at a time, either through the ADC or through a digital input. But given the other features, I can live with this. I'm not aware of another interface that has all these features. Closest is the more expensive Prism Lyra 2, which doesn't have the analog volume control. There is no other interface I know that has the 2-way SRC. Does this actually have any competition? Anyway, I'll probably try one. If it works out, I can sell my RME UFX and my Dangerous Source and better than break-even financially. If the ADC quality is really there, I could consider also selling my Burl B2 ADC, though I'm thinking of using the Burl for tracking and using the Pure2 DAC-ADC for an analog loop during mixing. In Canada, the Pure2 is about $2600, which becomes roughly $1600 after tax deductions. For that price, it just seems like a no-brainer. And no brains is my specialty. Considering these features, the price is incredible. I'm not aware of any RM combination of devices that can match these features. But I am curious if RM and/or Svart can match or exceed the actual convertor quality.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 15, 2015 18:52:54 GMT -6
Yummy I will test it out tonight and see how it performs. Please update us! After my failed attempt with a Lynx Hilo, I will probably give a Pure2 a try. Some GS guys whose opinion I value are saying that the Pure2 conversion is amazing, not better or worse than Burl but a different flavor. The features I like: It's an interface with USB, so it's operating system independent. It's drivers are derived from the Orion and the Zen, which are apparently quite stable and low-latency. This is something that is very important to me, since for about 12 years I've been spoiled by RME's amazing Windows drivers. It has sample rate conversion in both directions, so you can insert a digital device that runs at a different sample rate. I'm thinking of trying the Kemper, bypassing both the Kemper ADC and DAC, while recording at 96 (the Kemper is 44.1) both for recording and reamping. The only other box that can do this, as far as I know, is the Prism Lyra 2. Are there any others? It has SPDIF coax, SPDIF optical, and AES/EBU connectors for digital I/O. It has 3 DACs (including the HP DAC), though you can access only two of them via USB. You can run an analog loop using one DAC while using another DAC to monitor, also running a digital loop simultaneously. It has a relay-controlled analog volume control. This will allow me to get rid of my Dangerous Music Source monitor controller, which uses pots. One thing I HATE is that you can only record two channels at a time, either through the ADC or through a digital input. But given the other features, I can live with this. I'm not aware of another interface that has all these features. Closest is the more expensive Prism Lyra 2, which doesn't have the analog volume control. There is no other interface I know that has the 2-way SRC. Does this actually have any competition? Anyway, I'll probably try one. If it works out, I can sell my RME UFX and my Dangerous Source and better than break-even financially. If the ADC quality is really there, I could consider also selling my Burl B2 ADC, though I'm thinking of using the Burl for tracking and using the Pure2 DAC-ADC for an analog loop during mixing. In Canada, the Pure2 is about $2600, which becomes roughly $1600 after tax deductions. For that price, it just seems like a no-brainer. And no brains is my specialty. Considering these features, the price is incredible. I'm not aware of any RM combination of devices that can match these features. But I am curious if RM and/or Svart can match or exceed the actual convertor quality. Really does look awesome. 3 DACs has me intrigued. So basically one out to a mastering chain, one out to your monitors, and one to headphones? If you can't access the 3rd via USB, how do you access it?
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Post by LesC on Apr 15, 2015 23:00:20 GMT -6
Really does look awesome. 3 DACs has me intrigued. So basically one out to a mastering chain, one out to your monitors, and one to headphones? If you can't access the 3rd via USB, how do you access it? Currently the information is really skimpy, but from what I gather you can, for example, switch the headphone DAC to listen to your mix before and after the analog chain, or an independent input from one of the digital inputs. All the analog and digital I/O can be used and routed using either the front-panel controls or a control app which is available for both Windows and Mac. One routing I'd like to try out is guitar or bass into a DI on the Heritage DMA73 preamp, into a Warm WA76 compressor, into the Pure2 analog in. Then Pure2 SPDIF coax out into the Kemper using SRC. Then the Kemper back into the Pure2 SPDIF coax using SRC, and recording through USB into Cubase. With the appropriate Kemper settings, this will record the guitar or bass/pre/comp on one channel, and the Kemper-processed signal on the other channel. And it will bypass the ADC and DAC on the Kemper itself. The way I've described it seems more complex than it really is, it's actually quite trivial and the routing can be set up as a preset within the Pure2. This can also be done for reamping, all digitally. Will this improve the sound? I have no idea but I'd like to try it. The limitations seem to be that if you're using USB you can only record one stereo input at a time, either through the ADC or from a digital input. And you can only output 2 stereo outputs through USB. The limitations are more restrictive if you're connecting via digital I/O, then you only have direct access to one of the DAC's. But it could still be used as an analog loop plus a digital loop simultaneously. According to GS hype, some guys are comparing it favorably to more expensive AD-DA units from Burl, Prism, Forssell, Mytek, Lavry, and Lynx, so for the price it might be amazing even with the limitations. I'll know a lot more once I get my grubby hands on one, I'm thinking of ordering this week. I'll have a 30-day trial, so that should be enough time to gauge the driver stability and whether it does what I think (and hope) it does.
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Post by carymiller on Apr 15, 2015 23:05:54 GMT -6
Yummy I will test it out tonight and see how it performs. Please update us! After my failed attempt with a Lynx Hilo, I will probably give a Pure2 a try. Some GS guys whose opinion I value are saying that the Pure2 conversion is amazing, not better or worse than Burl but a different flavor. The features I like: It's an interface with USB, so it's operating system independent. It's drivers are derived from the Orion and the Zen, which are apparently quite stable and low-latency. This is something that is very important to me, since for about 12 years I've been spoiled by RME's amazing Windows drivers. It has sample rate conversion in both directions, so you can insert a digital device that runs at a different sample rate. I'm thinking of trying the Kemper, bypassing both the Kemper ADC and DAC, while recording at 96 (the Kemper is 44.1) both for recording and reamping. The only other box that can do this, as far as I know, is the Prism Lyra 2. Are there any others? It has SPDIF coax, SPDIF optical, and AES/EBU connectors for digital I/O. It has 3 DACs (including the HP DAC), though you can access only two of them via USB. You can run an analog loop using one DAC while using another DAC to monitor, also running a digital loop simultaneously. It has a relay-controlled analog volume control. This will allow me to get rid of my Dangerous Music Source monitor controller, which uses pots. One thing I HATE is that you can only record two channels at a time, either through the ADC or through a digital input. But given the other features, I can live with this. I'm not aware of another interface that has all these features. Closest is the more expensive Prism Lyra 2, which doesn't have the analog volume control. There is no other interface I know that has the 2-way SRC. Does this actually have any competition? Anyway, I'll probably try one. If it works out, I can sell my RME UFX and my Dangerous Source and better than break-even financially. If the ADC quality is really there, I could consider also selling my Burl B2 ADC, though I'm thinking of using the Burl for tracking and using the Pure2 DAC-ADC for an analog loop during mixing. In Canada, the Pure2 is about $2600, which becomes roughly $1600 after tax deductions. For that price, it just seems like a no-brainer. And no brains is my specialty. Considering these features, the price is incredible. I'm not aware of any RM combination of devices that can match these features. But I am curious if RM and/or Svart can match or exceed the actual convertor quality. What about the Hilo turned you off if you don't mind me asking?
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Post by LesC on Apr 15, 2015 23:24:31 GMT -6
What about the Hilo turned you off if you don't mind me asking? I don't want to disparage Lynx in any way, it was just a bad series of circumstances. I picked up the Lynx Hilo and within a day or two my wife and I came down with a very bad flu. I was completely out of commission, and for the first time in my 16 years as a professor I had to cancel some lectures, which I really hate. Anyway, by the time I was well-enough recovered, I only had a few days till the end of my 30-day trial. With the Hilo my system kept either hanging or giving me BSOD's. For the last 12 or 13 years I've been using various RME interfaces, currently a UFX, and I never had these problems. I just didn't have time to work with Lynx to resolve the problem. I'm fairly sure they could have resolved it, but I didn't want to take the chance of buying the Hilo without being 100% sure. The Hilo has the advantage that you can record 4 tracks at a time instead of just 2, and it has ADAT capability for expansion. The Pure2 has the advantage that it has 2-way SRC, whereas the Hilo only has SRC on digital in. And the Pure2 has the relay-controlled analog volume, which for me might eliminate the need for a monitor controller. I also like the Pure2 form-factor better, a one-unit 19" rack-mountable vs the Hilo which is a 2-unit high and 1/2-width box.
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