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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 15, 2015 11:38:47 GMT -6
Anyone tried these? I see there's a used pair for sale...somewhere...anyway, just wondering if they're a step up from the Pro Ac Studio 100's...not that I'm bothered by the Pro Acs...just trying to find more ways to spend money  Has Pro Ac discontinued the Studio 100? Don't see it for sale anywhere anymore. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 15, 2015 12:24:55 GMT -6
Anyone tried these? I see there's a used pair for sale...somewhere...anyway, just wondering if they're a step up from the Pro Ac Studio 100's...not that I'm bothered by the Pro Acs...just trying to find more ways to spend money Has Pro Ac discontinued the Studio 100? Don't see it for sale anywhere anymore. link please |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 15, 2015 12:33:44 GMT -6
Now why would I link something I wanna buy |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 15, 2015 12:40:37 GMT -6
yes the pro acs are discontinued but they have a new model i think the pmc are passive radiator and have on board DA etc: you'll sure have your da ass covered since you have power amps are you considering amphion and its 30 day in home no question return policy ? |
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Post by ericn on Mar 15, 2015 13:41:03 GMT -6
Yet again Studio 100s are discontinued, for how long we will see.
PMC two 6 is transmission line not passive radiation huge differance!
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 15, 2015 14:07:35 GMT -6
What the heck does that mean, ericn? Also - I think the twotwo.6's are active right? |
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Post by ericn on Mar 15, 2015 14:18:30 GMT -6
What the heck does that mean, ericn? Also - I think the twotwo.6's are active right? Transmission line is a completely different way of loading a woofer, almost like a horn behind the woofer, you either love it or hate it. A Passive radiator is very similar to a port but with much slower almost delayed response Yes these are actives, To my ears different but not better than your ProAcs. To move up I think you would need a larger system maybe Bearfoot micro mains, larger 3 way PMC ATC or Quested or the 3 way Neumann K&H, but I would still keep the ProAcs as a near field! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 15, 2015 15:47:22 GMT -6
thx ericn my bad !
jk if you go on line you can see a diagram but ericn described it well
if positioning is sensitive you can place pmc vertical or horizontal
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Post by ericn on Mar 15, 2015 16:05:10 GMT -6
No problem , like I said people either love or hate the sound of transmission lines it's a different sound and can require different positioning.
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Post by jeromemason on Mar 16, 2015 1:52:54 GMT -6
The PMC's are amazing monitors, but I did like the PSI A17m's better if you're looking for something more analytical. I think Warren has some killer deals on some open box ones over at his shop. If you had ProAcs and those it'd be a very good A/B monitoring setup IMO.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 16, 2015 12:20:27 GMT -6
Anyone tried these? I see there's a used pair for sale...somewhere...anyway, just wondering if they're a step up from the Pro Ac Studio 100's...not that I'm bothered by the Pro Acs...just trying to find more ways to spend money Has Pro Ac discontinued the Studio 100? Don't see it for sale anywhere anymore. It looks like they have a some Meyer Sound HD-1 speakers for a good price too (if we're seeing them in the same place). I imagine that those are pretty boss and were more expensive than the PMC's new and less used. |
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Post by ericn on Mar 16, 2015 13:27:26 GMT -6
Here's the thing about HD1's great speaker with a noisy amp! 8 out of ten of the used ones I have come across need new HF drivers, that means shipping them back to Meyer for replacement and calibration , the price of which makes me love the cheap Morell Tweets in my Questeds with even less expensive Diaphragms!
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 16, 2015 17:48:45 GMT -6
I truly believe it has a TON to do with the amp too. My ProAc's sounded even better with dandeurloo's DIY amp...problem was, it was about a $2K build if I remember. Is that one as good as a used Bryston 4SST for the same amount? I don't know... |
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Post by nobtwiddler on Mar 18, 2015 19:36:11 GMT -6
I purchased the HD-1's when they were first released, and had them updated by Meyer a few years later. If there ever was a problem, as Eric said they'd have to go back for the fix and recalibration.
A very expensive proposition. For me they were $6000 NS-10's....and I HATE NS-10's !
And Eric is also correct about the PMC speakers..you either love them or hate what they do. That transmission Line thing is pretty specific.
Now that being said, the PMC AML-1 or 2's are fabulous!
But very expensive!
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Post by jeromemason on Mar 18, 2015 21:33:35 GMT -6
Johnkenn you should keep your ProAcs and look into a set of KRK 10-3's..... crazy as it sounds they are actually really really good loudspeakers and it sounds like what you need is something to mix on and then something to turn up to pound I have my modded HS80m's and I have a set of those KRK's and I love that combo, plus I think you can get a set for like $900.
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Post by ericn on Mar 19, 2015 10:00:53 GMT -6
I truly believe it has a TON to do with the amp too. My ProAc's sounded even better with dandeurloo's DIY amp...problem was, it was about a $2K build if I remember. Is that one as good as a used Bryston 4SST for the same amount? I don't know... John What do you want from a new speaker? What do you want to spend? Speakers are very personal, recommendations are based on what works for some one else, but unless you have some common ground end up being prett useless. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 19, 2015 10:09:04 GMT -6
Honestly, I'm not in the market. Always looking to upgrade, but I think I could make these Proacs even better with an overpowered amp
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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 19, 2015 11:06:22 GMT -6
I truly believe it has a TON to do with the amp too. My ProAc's sounded even better with dandeurloo's DIY amp...problem was, it was about a $2K build if I remember. Is that one as good as a used Bryston 4SST for the same amount? I don't know... I'd like to know details about your power amp dandeurloo , it sounds very interesting! |
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Post by mokobigbro on Mar 23, 2015 9:41:56 GMT -6
I'm very curious on the amphion and the new atc scm45a.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 12, 2015 14:52:53 GMT -6
I meant to mention that I had compared the proacs with the focal solo's and thought the ProAc's were dramatically better.
I also borrowed Sal's Lexicon 225 NT (Bryston 4bst rebranded) and I couldn't really hear much difference at all. My 212 (rebranded 3bst) had pretty much the exact same tone. The 225 seemed to have a little more power, but I never get to any volume level that made a difference.
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Post by bravomusicman on Aug 16, 2016 18:17:40 GMT -6
I gotta say, they impressed me... Big time. Enough so that as soon as I have the $$ (or most likely before...) I'm picking up a pair. I had them for a week along with a pair of amphions (  )and they were great. Hardly a learning curve. Mixes I was in the middle of translated really well. I've had my Precision 8's for over a decade and dig them but starting to have issues. I was surprised by how much I liked working on them (the twotwo's) even going down in woofer size (and way up in $$!!) Interesting to note, I had the Mad Max monitors in my room about a month ago which are "similar" to ProAcs and I without questions preferred the two two.6's. I actually lost a mix gig while testing out the MadMax'. Haha. But hey, had to put them to work. The PMC's were less fatiguing and better low end reach IMO. mixing on the MadMax, I just kept thinking "I need a sub". Not with the PMC's. Anyhow, my 2¢. I'm getting a pair sooner rather than later. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 16, 2016 18:51:20 GMT -6
I ended up with the One 18s and I really really like them. Still wanna hear these though.
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)and they were great. Hardly a learning curve. Mixes I was in the middle of translated really well. I've had my Precision 8's for over a decade and dig them but starting to have issues. I was surprised by how much I liked working on them (the twotwo's) even going down in woofer size (and way up in $$!!) Interesting to note, I had the Mad Max monitors in my room about a month ago which are "similar" to ProAcs and I without questions preferred the two two.6's. I actually lost a mix gig while testing out the MadMax'. Haha. But hey, had to put them to work. The PMC's were less fatiguing and better low end reach IMO. mixing on the MadMax, I just kept thinking "I need a sub". Not with the PMC's. Anyhow, my 2¢. I'm getting a pair sooner rather than later.