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Post by Ward on Mar 3, 2015 6:51:40 GMT -6
Will someone PLEASE create and release this?
Tube circuit and FET circuit in the same 2U unit. A simple switch that swaps (back and forth) the tube and FET circuits, otherwise, the same input and output audio transformers, and the same T4 cell and chassis, and metering.
It really isn't that difficult to do.
I firmly believe it would be extremely popular amongst audio professionals who could use a few more Swiss-army-knife type units in their arsenal. When you're tracking guitars (Acoustics, Electrics, Bass), you use the LA3a mode and when you're tracking vocals or wind instruments, you use the LA2a mode.
I have mentioned this idea to a couple of audio equipment manufacturers... no-one has done it yet. I believe it could be done and marketed for under a grand, making it an incredible bargain and one that would sell like hotcakes.
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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 3, 2015 8:42:03 GMT -6
It's a great idea! Under $1k though...  |
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Post by dandeurloo on Mar 3, 2015 8:49:11 GMT -6
Not gonna happen under a grand. Probably more like 3k if done properly.
Lots of iron, t4b and a huge psu with multiple power rails that would require a few transformers itself or a expensive custom transformer.
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Post by Ward on Mar 3, 2015 9:17:22 GMT -6
Not gonna happen under a grand. Probably more like 3k if done properly. Lots of iron, t4b and a huge psu with multiple power rails that would require a few transformers itself or a expensive custom transformer. No one thought an 1176 Rev D clone could be made for $600 street price. Yet it happened. No one thought a Pultec EQP1 clone could be made for $600 street price. Yet it happened. I'm certain this could happen too. |
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Mar 3, 2015 9:58:40 GMT -6
why can't it use a switching PSU like lots of modern gear uses, instead of transformers and rectifier/filter combos that all the old stuff uses? that'll save a bunch of space/weight.
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Post by svart on Mar 3, 2015 10:19:58 GMT -6
I think it can be done. The problem is, and has always been, the T4 unit. The CDS cells used in them are long since EOL and the EL panel is also EOL, but can be made for large orders last I saw.
The transformers can be something like Edcor as the transformers in the LA2A don't impart much sound at all. Edcor can also wind a power tranny with all the secondaries needed for both designs.
If you can get T4 units or figure out how to make them with other CDS devices (which people have tried and failed to get an exact clone), then you can do it pretty easy for under 1K.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Mar 3, 2015 10:21:10 GMT -6
I don't know about the 1176 but the Universal LA2a and 3a reissues don't sound nearly as good to me as the UREI originals.
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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 3, 2015 10:37:37 GMT -6
the la2-3a's are much more intensive and different from one another, if you're to get in/out tranny's an autoformer, t4b and 4 decent tubes for a single channel build, your already 1/2 way past the $1k mark i would think, then the space you'd need, boards, tons of switching relays if you plan on sharing t4b, tranny's etc(are the trannys the same in the la2-3a?), i don't know? maybe it could happen i suppose...
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Post by LesC on Mar 3, 2015 13:13:33 GMT -6
Not gonna happen under a grand. Probably more like 3k if done properly. Lots of iron, t4b and a huge psu with multiple power rails that would require a few transformers itself or a expensive custom transformer. No one thought an 1176 Rev D clone could be made for $600 street price. Yet it happened. No one thought a Pultec EQP1 clone could be made for $600 street price. Yet it happened. I'm certain this could happen too. As you implied, I think Warm could do it but probably won't. I have two TB12's and a WA76 and am quite happy with them, and plan on getting at least one EQP-WA. As much as I admire what Bryce Young is doing, I wish he wouldn't build-in the limitations of the originals when creating his clones. For example, a blend control for parallel processing on the WA76 would have been nice, and I don't think would have added too much to the price. Of course, he gave the EQP-WA a couple of extra frequency points, so admittedly I'm full of shit. Having said that, I would be very happy to have a WA2a and and/or a WA3a and/or a WA2a-3a in my rack. Bryce, pretty please? |
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Post by ericn on Mar 3, 2015 13:33:56 GMT -6
No one thought an 1176 Rev D clone could be made for $600 street price. Yet it happened. No one thought a Pultec EQP1 clone could be made for $600 street price. Yet it happened. I'm certain this could happen too. As you implied, I think Warm could do it but probably won't. I have two TB12's and a WA76 and am quite happy with them, and plan on getting at least one EQP-WA. As much as I admire what Bryce Young is doing, I wish he wouldn't build-in the limitations of the originals when creating his clones. For example, a blend control for parallel processing on the WA76 would have been nice, and I don't think would have added too much to the price. Of course, he gave the EQP-WA a couple of extra frequency points, so admittedly I'm full of shit. Having said that, I would be very happy to have a WA2a and and/or a WA3a and/or a WA2a-3a in my rack. Bryce, pretty please? Les I think Bryce did his research, a 1176 that looks like an 1176 is an easy sell. add a switch and people think very differently about it, same with a Pultec , but you can add a few points without changing the look! |
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Post by LesC on Mar 3, 2015 14:21:38 GMT -6
You're probably right. The Serpent Splice Mk II adds switches and features, if it was anywhere near the price of a WA76 I'd buy one in an instant but that's just me. I'm certainly not trying to denigrate Bryce's products, I think they're great!
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Post by rickcarson on Mar 4, 2015 8:08:17 GMT -6
Cool concept. Id be into it.
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Post by drbill on Mar 4, 2015 11:20:58 GMT -6
1176's are relatively cheap to build - comparatively speaking. Heck, brad has one for the color module that's an identical circuit less power supply and input/output iron for what is it? $99 or $129? And it's a virtual clone.
An LA2a/3a is a little more expensive build due to the iron, T4's, tubes and switching paraphernalia. But it's a nice concept.
As for the splice - brilliant design IMO. I love my pair and they's staying - forever.
I want another couple 3a's and a couple 2a's though, and if a combo box was designed, it would be on the top of my list.
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