Auto-Tune 8 vs Melodyne

I am into Melodyne if using anything for correction, because on the one hand i find it very intuitive to use, it literally needed no explanation at all to do even more than the solid basic stuff and is very comfortable.
On the other hand, used tastefully, it seems to be the most unobtrusive tool in the league. I.e. i find it quite easy to get results with very little artifacts, at least in reasonable range of change.
You *can* abuse it like Autotune, but if you are after abuse as an effect, take Autotune anyway.

I've had better experiences with Melodyne, but all of my Melo/AT usage was on older versions. I've had plenty of good luck with iLok though, FWIW (knock on wood).

I have Melodyne. Works well, but is easy to overdo. But that's an engineering problem, not a fault of the software. It's transparent to my ears when used judiciously for minor pitch correction.

It's interesting...I find myself longing for stuff to be in tune these days...like, I don't have the same tolerance for out of tun-ed-ness that I used to...There's a fine line - I want things to be in perfect pitch, but not over-tuned.

There's no such thing as a pitch perfect vocalist even amongst the worlds best, keeping constantly in tune of course (it isn't that hard if you're a good singer). Keeping to absolute pitch without any variations how ever small, never!.. (Well you'd sound like a robot if ya did anyway).

I can tune guitars pretty much perfectly by ear, so I'm not too bad a detecting out of tune and you can tell the shear amount of perfect vocals out there (some guy from Future Magazine said pretty much about 99% of pro released tracks). They all have either been melodyned or autotuned!.

But I prefer Melodyne I must admit, because it is slightly more organic.

Pride is my downfall, I'd rather do 50 takes then submit.. Although even if I autotune my tracks, at least I can take some solace in being able to pull it off live. It may not be absolute pitch perfect, but near enough that most people would hardly ever notice or care.

Thing is when you listen to a song 100 times under a microscope with compressed vocals shoved right in your face, then it's either going to go one way or the other. Like Adele people will love your slight nuanced flaws, or they might not know what to make of it.

I use Autotune, but rarely use the display where you can get really detailed. I'm not paid enough to do that, probably would if I was.

That being said, I miss the graniness-for lack of a better word- of singers like Joe Cocker/Rod Stewart/Janis Joplin etc. You noticed their timbre- is that the right word? LOL- as much as their pitch. I don't know if there's a connection to the rise of autotune, but I'd take a grainy vocal over an autotuned one any day and there don't seem to be a lot of singers like that anymore. Everything's too perfect for me.

I am one of those fools who sings a part over and over again... as many as 50 times until it's perfect (I do mainly backing vocals these days). The only tuning tools I'll use are on someone else's voice (with their permission) such as Waves Tune and Sound Shifter Mono. And then only to pitch correct individual notes that were just off by a smidge.

I will say this, I learned a shitload using melodyne... the visual representation of pitch, and I would often tune a vocal to hear where I was going wrong... working out harmonies.. I guess i used it and then learned from it.. I shouldn't think so negative about it actually, its a brilliant tool.. really cool.

cheers

Wiz

how do these 2 compare to waves tune? IMO perfect sucks, i like great vox, but i like it to sound human, and back in the day, there were a LOT of great singers who didn't need tuning and didn't sound out of tune without it. Like wiz, I use waves tune for practicing my singing, it's a great visual representation of what i'm doing right and wrong, it's killer for that! I've come a long way with thousands of miles to go lol.

But if you gave me the power to snap my fingers and make auto tune vanish from existence with no possibility of returning, i'd take it in a second. I'm positive music would get better with all the talentless short cutters disappearing from the music scene.
make sure you get to the chorus's lol   I bet that turd maker luke slipped this out?

These tools would be great if they didn't work SO well... as in, if they could just make minute corrections to somewhat out of tune sections.

Last night I watched a video from a female country singer that I have some experience with. She can't carry a tune in a bucket. She has just atrocious pitch. But in the song for the video? Perfectly on key and that syrupy AT sound was there. Just bloody gross.