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Post by nomatic on Feb 12, 2015 13:03:45 GMT -6
Anybody use the Inward Connections Opamp in a Capi Vp26 build? I love the sound of these in my Brute Opto and am curious how it would work in this format. I saw that these units were available on the Capi site but have not heard opinions on them...
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 12, 2015 18:06:01 GMT -6
I put Red Dots in my Brute and much preferred it with the Red Dots...
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Post by nomatic on Feb 12, 2015 19:11:36 GMT -6
Thanks John!
I have Red dots in my Foote P4S ME and they do indeed sound great......
Just curious as I am about to build a few VP26s
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 12, 2015 19:30:30 GMT -6
The VF600's are definitely more "Hifi" sounding...
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 13, 2015 12:24:01 GMT -6
Yeah, more hi-fi and smiley faced. I know Bart Busch has a VP25 with a VF600 and loves it especially on kick. He's a member here but doesn't post much. I'll see if I can lure him over for his opinion.
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Post by bartacusad on Feb 13, 2015 13:32:54 GMT -6
Yes, the VF600 is definitely killer in the VP25! That's my go to mic pre these days over 1073's and that's saying a lot but I've done extensive listening and comparing with other engineers present and we all agreed. It's just got more bottom end and punch in general than the 1073 that I normally use. It's also great on Toms. Now...on VP26, not sure what sound you're looking for, it is smiley faced like Jeff and John said so if you're needing something that's a little more scooped out in the mids I'd say it's absolutely worth a try. The thing that makes it so good in the VP25 is the combination of the larger transformer and that particular Op-Amp. I'd be interested to hear it in the Brute Opto too or maybe Jeffs new compressor. Might be cool to have a compressor that does a little pre-dipping in the mid range for you since that's a lot of what I'm usually trying to control and a little top end sheen wouldn't hurt.
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Post by nomatic on Feb 13, 2015 16:29:07 GMT -6
Thanks for the replies Y'all!
Maybe I should build up some VP 25s with this opamp?
The original intention is a set of drum Pre amps that require very little EQ and sound Big and punchy.
Maybe Y'all could say a little more about the differences between the VP25 and 26?
Best,
Michael
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Post by ericn on Feb 13, 2015 17:38:06 GMT -6
This is my only bitch, with the genie Jeff let out of the bottle with his Pres, at some point you have to quit auditioning shut up and record! Their just way to many DOA choices ( is it bad to write DOA while in a hospital on Fri the 13th?)
I do love Scott's Red Dots it was love at first listen, the right balance between Hunnington Glue And goo and Paul White era clean,
I'm waiting for guys to realize they can play with transformer choice but again Eds where pretty much love at first listen .
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Post by drbill on Feb 13, 2015 20:24:35 GMT -6
( is it bad to write DOA while in a hospital on Fri the 13th?) Oh man Eric.... Get better soon. And get out of the hospital!!!! BTW, I wouldn't worry about Fri, the 13th or DOA's. Focus on getting better. bp |
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 13, 2015 23:54:28 GMT -6
This is my only bitch, with the genie Jeff let out of the bottle with his Pres, at some point you have to quit auditioning shut up and record! Their just way to many DOA choices ( is it bad to write DOA while in a hospital on Fri the 13th?) I do love Scott's Red Dots it was love at first listen, the right balance between Hunnington Glue And goo and Paul White era clean, I'm waiting for guys to realize they can play with transformer choice but again Eds where pretty much love at first listen . i wonder if you could shoehorn EA2503 OP tranny's from the vp25 into the vp28 to give it a little extension down low kick drum style? jsteiger ? |
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 13, 2015 23:59:57 GMT -6
Not possible Tony. They are way too big. I do have the Heider though.
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Post by nomatic on Feb 14, 2015 9:55:39 GMT -6
I was impressed with the Inward Opamp because of its Low end Tonycamphd.....
Jsteiger could you chime in about the difference sonically between the VP 25 and 26?
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Post by winetree on Feb 14, 2015 10:28:03 GMT -6
Where do you buy a V600? I went to their site and didn't see them.
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Post by nomatic on Feb 14, 2015 10:36:22 GMT -6
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 14, 2015 10:44:55 GMT -6
I was impressed with the Inward Opamp because of its Low end Tonycamphd..... Jsteiger could you chime in about the difference sonically between the VP 25 and 26? I will quote myself from the purple site  I have chosen to replicate the vintage console preamp over a straight up 312 clone for a few reasons. Mostly, I really love they way the old consoles sound! They for sure have a more distinct "tonal" footprint to them. The 312 is a bit more open and almost cleaner sounding compared to a VP26. That may be hard to believe with all the "mid-forward", "mid-aggressive" adjectives used to describe the coveted 312 sound. "Clean" is usually not one of them. Well, the VP26 has just a little more of that "it" sound, if you will. Even though they are not as open, they for sure do not sound dark when comparing the top. Similar, just not quite as "open". The bottom end on the VP26 is a bit tighter...maybe more round than a 312. It is subtle though. They are the most different in the mids though I think. The VP26 is very tight and focused while being even more forward and aggressive sounding but only in the bestest of ways. They have a unique and special character there that is not present in other preamps that I have heard. The VP26 output transformer can be driven hard with a nice, pleasing, gentle saturation. That will happen with a 2623-1 before it will with a 2503. Again, it's my opinion but I think there are other ears out there that can verify some of these same findings.
OK that being said, if a VP26 is 9:00 and a 312 is 3:00, I would put the VP25 in the 11:00 area. It has many of the same tonal signatures as a VP26 but a little more open sounding. |
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Post by jimwilliams on Feb 14, 2015 11:49:15 GMT -6
Steve Firlott uses the John Hall design opamp. My favorite 1/1" opamp is a hybrid using MJE output transistors biased calss A/B and a ADA4898-1 opamp. High gain, low THD, over 100 ma output current, 60V/us slew rate.
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