Slates new monthly All plugs forever subscription plan $20

my feelings too and he has basically completely undercut selling them now too, oh and you can get relab for another few bucks, sure am glad I dropped like what 2 grand on plugs ,,oh ya and we haven't been able to use most of them in pt 11 cus they weren't aax so not a lot of value there

so apparently he will work out some sort of get all plug use no payment plan for some period of time for people who own slate plugs, sounds awfully complicated to me !

Is this real? $20/mo for all Slate plugs? Blows my mind. I assume that he'll keep selling them as is too or is it subscription only from here on out?

Why is Chris from Airwindows shilling for Slate?

He's been asked a bunch of times how much additional VMR modules would cost and he's avoided that too.

Guy is a total pro when it comes to marketing though. Gotta give him credit there.

AVID big and evil and lies
Slate small and lies but hey Steven seams like a great guy, except when he fails to deliver, he seams really sorry.

Yeah - I know earlier on in the thread I told him about how he should write a book on business and I can see why people follow him.  

I thought we were.

I think the bigger issue is that you're transferring control of what you have to someone else.  

I'm a big fan of software and plugs that tend to use serial numbers and other non-intrusive forms of copy protection like Satson or Orange Tree Libraries where they "watermark" your name into the software and so I tend to only buy and use software that use that kind of protection.

I'm aware that I don't own it technically but it was never a big deal to me so because I don't sell my plugs and software so I don't worry so much about navigating those tricky legal waters.  So I get my serial and even though I may not own it, I can use it in perpetuity.  If the company falls off the face of the Earth, if I build a new computer, etc. I can reinstall when I want and enter the serial number.  

In the subscription model you're giving someone else control over your software.  If they want to raise the price, they will.  If they want to cut off your access, they will.  

Slate can tell me all he wants about how he'll always have the full version for sale if you want that.  Adobe had the same spiel when they started.  We all see how that ended up. 

Plus for those of us who like to keep our DAW computers off the internet (another reason why I only buy serial and similar copy protected stuff) going subscription means having to stay attached to the internet.

What I find the most humorous watching all those people in that thread willingly give up their control and freedom is that I bet you at least half, if not more of them, were probably people who ranted and raved against DRM and how they'll only buy DRM free mp3s because no one should have the right to cut off access to their music library.

Funny world. 

This right here is where it's at.  We got guys like Bryce selling great analog gear at a slightly higher price than plugins.  I'm pretty sure the software hockers are figuring that out.  Then you have companies like UA providing channel count, ad/da affordably to use the hardware.  

For the last couple years, I've been using some of the UAD stuff, a few Waves plugins and stock filters and eq on Cubase, but mostly hardware for the heavy lifting.  I say let em do whatever, it's not going to effect me and I doubt it will effect many of you.

This new subscription approach to plugins and now with PT12 (I use Logic and Mixbus) confirmed my thinking from some time ago that it's a never-ending money pit (yes, that's audio in general ).
Some companies have survived, some don't and won't. In my view (fwiw) this is no different than the automobile industry moving to a model of leasing. Not a fan but there will be plenty of people that think it's a great deal so they can have access to things they otherwise could not afford (today). We have become a society that views consumerism as nothing more than "what's my payment?". Very sad and eventually problematic. I have paid for and trashed more plugins than I care to admit. At least with hardware I own it, doesn't go out of style, don't have to worry about my current operating system, etc. Let's hope developers don't follow the cable companies model and constantly charge more to their captive audience. Maybe the world changed and left me behind

Scott

Well everyone will see this their own way but if one has invested a couple of grand and can now have more plugs ins for $20 bucks a month and if probably the resale value of your investment just tanked  and you have to pay iloc transfer fees  and if you have not been able to use these plugs for almost 2 years maybe yo would see it differently ?

anyway we will see how tis shakes out.

i was seriously thinking of selling all my slate plugs ( only use ssd) and have been waiting, waiting , waiting, for them to be aax, hoping that would help their resale value  and help offset the iloc transfer fees and now the subscription service, I feel will undermine their value, but perhaps not as some people would prefer to buy not rent

its frustrating cus slate has also pretty well admitted that the old code really wasn't very efficient, quelle surprise !! I never used vcc as demonstrated as I could never get enough instances to work even on an i7 quad.  I much prefer uad tape emu's and I don't remember that last time I used fg-x, due to the aax problem.