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Post by Randge on Jan 7, 2015 22:29:51 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 7, 2015 22:35:21 GMT -6
That just pisses me the fuck off.
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Post by Randge on Jan 7, 2015 22:43:31 GMT -6
Well, you know what tempo and key to write a hit song in pop country, John!
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 7, 2015 22:45:08 GMT -6
sheeut..it's even more whacked out than I thought.
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Post by Randge on Jan 7, 2015 22:45:20 GMT -6
They want nothing changing that format. No different guitar sounds, nothing acoustic based, nothing that makes people think whatsoever. For the most part, they are the commercials for the commercials on the radio.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 7, 2015 22:48:44 GMT -6
I just can't figure out who the hell actually likes this stuff? All the cliches - both musically and lyrically...it's just depressing.
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Post by t3 on Jan 7, 2015 22:49:34 GMT -6
That is freaking unbelievable.
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Post by t3 on Jan 7, 2015 22:54:21 GMT -6
They want nothing changing that format. No different guitar sounds, nothing acoustic based, nothing that makes people think whatsoever. For the most part, they are the commercials for the commercials on the radio. R Undoubtedly market-researched, cross referenced by demographic, and reduced to the lowest common denominator to achieve maximum appeal. Oh, and...ART!
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Post by joelhamilton on Jan 7, 2015 23:00:55 GMT -6
doesn't it really mean the country music demographic is comprised entirely of morons? I hate to say that but...
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Post by WKG on Jan 7, 2015 23:06:43 GMT -6
doesn't it really mean the country music demographic is comprised entirely of morons? I hate to say that but...
No but I do think that a steady diet of that stuff will inevitably make you one....
Pretty amazing.
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Post by Randge on Jan 7, 2015 23:08:35 GMT -6
This is focus group record label formula garbage. There is no point it trying to write songs for the genre anymore until something is done to change it all.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 8, 2015 0:01:08 GMT -6
I just can't figure out who the hell actually likes this stuff? All the cliches - both musically and lyrically...it's just depressing. He who buys no music because they are broke from buying beer to listen to this shit.
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Post by formatcyes on Jan 8, 2015 0:38:54 GMT -6
Don't know whether to laugh or cry. "Maybe Ill do a little something like this". Wait is that a hit no it's been done before. Who cares, not like the masses are paying for it anyways.
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Post by sozocaps on Jan 8, 2015 1:41:16 GMT -6
Mixolydian....
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Post by RicFoxx on Jan 8, 2015 7:20:53 GMT -6
You could probably do this do a few genres right now...dumming down america, it's a plan!
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Post by matt on Jan 8, 2015 7:30:41 GMT -6
This music makes me feel funny inside
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Post by Ward on Jan 8, 2015 8:17:59 GMT -6
Bro country buy-in will be the death of many artists.
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Post by svart on Jan 8, 2015 8:26:01 GMT -6
Since country is pretty much the only thing that makes money anymore, they are grasping at the last straws available. I remember mashups like this in rock about a decade ago..
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Post by henge on Jan 8, 2015 8:56:56 GMT -6
Wow! There was the same thing a wile ago for Nickleback songs so it's not a new "phenomenon". Homogenized music.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 8, 2015 9:11:02 GMT -6
The truly sad part is this represents only the most commercial, self perpetuating junk music while there are so many seriously deep and innovative country, alt. country and Americana artists making incredibly good music. They're just not getting pushed by "country radio" and we keep hearing from the same old cast of characters year after year.
I don't know if it will be turn out the same, but in the late 60's commercial AM radio lost it's cool factor and FM began playing deep tracks and new innovative artists, and it was an avalanche of success. Hopefully, the same kind of thing happens here.
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Post by donr on Jan 8, 2015 9:18:45 GMT -6
It's the same 4, 1, 5, 6m chords that's infected pop music these last years. "Don't Stop Believing," for example, is 1, 5, 6m, 4. I guess 1, 4, 5 12 bar blues was the bomb at one time, in the dawn of Rock and Roll. Still is for me. Bro country to my ears starts making Shania Twain sound authentic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 9:46:58 GMT -6
Gross.
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Post by Guitar on Jan 8, 2015 10:05:59 GMT -6
hurts my ears
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 8, 2015 10:34:40 GMT -6
This is focus group record label formula garbage. There is no point it trying to write songs for the genre anymore until something is done to change it all. R When I first got into this business, there was an excitement about writing songs...there was the chance that you could "write yourself into a cut" - there was still a sense that the best song would win at the end of the day. Sure, some days, you wrote a mindless uptempo, but most of my days were spent attempting to write something that would rise above. Well, that is absolutely a thing of the past. The level of art has been so devalued that anyone could write these songs...literally anyone. (I call it 10th grade country, because most of it sounds like it was a 10th grade English class project and these were the best of them). There are no cuts available for songwriters (only the ones that already had tons of success, now the labels put those ten people in the room to write with their artist) because anyone could write this stuff - and they usually own the publishing on the majority of the song - and if they don't, it was because one of the other writers in 3-5 way is an established hit songwriter that lends some sort of "credibility." It's all sad and infuriating. The playing field is more un-level than it has ever been. Even with all that being said, this doesn't describe every song on country radio now - I'm sure there are some good ones and some exceptions that have slipped through - there always is - but I dont listen anymore so I couldn't tell you. I'm sure many would label me as a malcontent, washed up, bitter, no-talent, etc. But I'm not (I passed bitter a long time ago). I am so desperately wanting to share a craft I've worked years on - something I know others would enjoy - something that has content that is not overly complicated, but both empathetic and relatable. Something that I learned from listening to the incredible talents that came before me and is deeper than painted on jeans and discovering that, yes, the moon is bright. It is the reason I continue to do this and hang on as my salary dwindles every year. This isn't for money, it's for passion.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 8, 2015 10:38:08 GMT -6
Wow! There was the same thing a wile ago for Nickleback songs so it's not a new "phenomenon". Homogenized music. Joey Moi (whom I don't know but I'm sure he's a nice guy and I would bastardize myself for a cut to provide for my family right now) was a member of Nickleback. He now produces Forida Georgia Line. The biggest thing in Country right now. They sound just like Nickleback.
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