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Post by unit7 on Dec 24, 2014 9:15:17 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 24, 2014 10:56:52 GMT -6
Nice.
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Post by jayson on Dec 24, 2014 21:20:55 GMT -6
A pair of those would sure sound nice. Is there any way for them to be linked?
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 25, 2014 9:24:41 GMT -6
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Post by littlesicily on Dec 25, 2014 10:30:41 GMT -6
Oh snap!
Is this the kit version of the 54F50 500 series?
Merry Christmas everyone!
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Post by delcampo on Dec 25, 2014 11:12:26 GMT -6
Oh snap! Is this the kit version of the 54F50 500 series? Merry Christmas everyone! Merry Christmas y'all. From Colin... Basically the same as the 54F50 but without the illuminated meter, and single attack speeds (like an original Neve 2254A). |
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Post by littlesicily on Dec 25, 2014 12:24:20 GMT -6
Oh snap! Is this the kit version of the 54F50 500 series? Merry Christmas everyone! Merry Christmas y'all. From Colin... Basically the same as the 54F50 but without the illuminated meter, and single attack speeds (like an original Neve 2254A). So these are pretty colored comp's right? Never used the Neve. Anyone have experience with the Neve's these AML's are based on? |
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Post by svart on Dec 25, 2014 12:39:05 GMT -6
Merry Christmas y'all. From Colin... Basically the same as the 54F50 but without the illuminated meter, and single attack speeds (like an original Neve 2254A). So these are pretty colored comp's right? Never used the Neve. Anyone have experience with the Neve's these AML's are based on? Yes extremely colored. Very old school neve sound. Pretty dark, grainy and "round" sounding, even under lots of compression. With the carnhill transformers it'll be slightly less dark sounding though. |
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Post by littlesicily on Dec 25, 2014 13:03:31 GMT -6
So these are pretty colored comp's right? Never used the Neve. Anyone have experience with the Neve's these AML's are based on? Yes extremely colored. Very old school neve sound. Pretty dark, grainy and "round" sounding, even under lots of compression. With the carnhill transformers it'll be slightly less dark sounding though. Forgive my ignorance on these…. What are the typical sources these comps are useful on? |
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Post by svart on Dec 25, 2014 13:18:20 GMT -6
Yes extremely colored. Very old school neve sound. Pretty dark, grainy and "round" sounding, even under lots of compression. With the carnhill transformers it'll be slightly less dark sounding though. Forgive my ignorance on these…. What are the typical sources these comps are useful on? Drum bus is one. I wouldn't be afraid to use it as the main bus compressor either.. I mean, that's what it was designed for. Lots of folks run their analog summing units through neve preamps for the charachter.. The 2254 is pretty much a 1272 unit with a compression element on the front of it. |
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Post by keymod on Dec 25, 2014 19:09:19 GMT -6
Does this act as a preamp also?
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Post by svart on Dec 26, 2014 14:52:56 GMT -6
Does this act as a preamp also? No, the compression element pads the signal down about 40dB, then the ba283 circuit gains it back up. Most of the gain is used this way. |
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Post by matt on Dec 26, 2014 18:50:03 GMT -6
From Colin... Basically the same as the 54F50 but without the illuminated meter, and single attack speeds (like an original Neve 2254A). Hmm, the kit shows the meter. I am looking at the 54F50 - the coincidence is alarming. Looks like you can get an ez2254 built for 795 BP. Between shipping and currency exchange fees, I estimate final cost for a completed one at around $1300. Interesting, verrrry interesting. |
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Post by unit7 on Dec 27, 2014 4:38:01 GMT -6
From Colin... Basically the same as the 54F50 but without the illuminated meter, and single attack speeds (like an original Neve 2254A). Hmm, the kit shows the meter. I am looking at the 54F50 - the coincidence is alarming. Looks like you can get an ez2254 built for 795 BP. Between shipping and currency exchange fees, I estimate final cost for a completed one at around $1300. Interesting, verrrry interesting. Not to question, but if you're not going to build it yourself that figure is getting close to a BAE 10DC. It's not a real 2254 clone but def the same style. Before buying mine I had a trio of original 2254s for demo (priced at about 11k). They sounded cool but not a real wow moment for me, not 11k wow anyway  A bit unflexible with few attack/release time options. After some investigation I took a chance and bought the 10DCs without demoing. And luckily enough I found them to be wowser units, and also have all the attack/release time options. To me they excel at close BD and snare and acoustic. On drum bus (in my case parallel) I vastly prefer the Zener though. But for DIY folks in the EU, you get almost two ez2254s for the same price as the 10DC (incl PSU/ship/customs/VAT). Seems like a rrreally good deal. |
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Post by delcampo on Dec 27, 2014 8:36:43 GMT -6
Hmm, the kit shows the meter. I am looking at the 54F50 - the coincidence is alarming. Looks like you can get an ez2254 built for 795 BP. Between shipping and currency exchange fees, I estimate final cost for a completed one at around $1300. Interesting, verrrry interesting. Not to question, but if you're not going to build it yourself that figure is getting close to a BAE 10DC. It's not a real 2254 clone but def the same style. Before buying mine I had a trio of original 2254s for demo (priced at about 11k). They sounded cool but not a real wow moment for me, not 11k wow anyway A bit unflexible with few attack/release time options. After some investigation I took a chance and bought the 10DCs without demoing. And luckily enough I found them to be wowser units, and also have all the attack/release time options. To me they excel at close BD and snare and acoustic. On drum bus (in my case parallel) I vastly prefer the Zener though. But for DIY folks in the EU, you get almost two ez2254s for the same price as the 10DC (incl PSU/ship/customs/VAT). Seems like a rrreally good deal. That makes sense to me. I haven't heard the AML kit 2254's but understand the their 500 series sound close to the originals territory. I have a pair of 10dc's and though they don't have the same 2254 low mid round thing as the Neve, I like them for several other reasons that to me are more practical. I'd also add Vocals to the list of Bd, Snr & acoustic. Elec guit ... |
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Post by unit7 on Dec 27, 2014 11:27:47 GMT -6
A pair of those would sure sound nice. Is there any way for them to be linked? Yep, Colin just replied at GDIY that there's a jack socket for stereo linking |
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Post by jfoc on Dec 30, 2014 15:03:47 GMT -6
dude knows what people want, thats for sure
gah, my diy list is growing for this winter...
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Post by ericn on Dec 30, 2014 20:38:45 GMT -6
While I haven't built any of Colin's stuff Jeff Steiger pointed out the ease and absolute detail of his instructions, and the fact that parts were pre cut and bent!
One has to give him credit for makeing DIY simple as well as the quality of his designs!
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Post by unit7 on Dec 31, 2014 10:08:42 GMT -6
I don't need one and really don't have room for one. But I'm so curious about how it'd sound that I'm playing with the thought of building two or three and keep only one and sell the other(s). If that would cover some of the cost for my own unit, I guess it could justify an order.. Since I'd be ordering within EU, and all outside EU would have to pay some fees anyway I guess worldwide delivery makes sense in this case. Please PM if this sounds interesting! For reference you could check my DIY LA2 thread. I work slowly and with care. And FYI I'm not a fan of messing with declaration forms etc to avoid tax/customs.
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Post by keymod on Jan 3, 2015 6:54:18 GMT -6
So two of these would work out to about the same cost as an API 2500. Anyone want to compare and choose a favorite? Which one for drum buss? Two buss?
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Post by jfoc on Oct 18, 2015 9:09:12 GMT -6
Ordered on the 13th, arrived the 16th. Placed quite a few diodes this morning, will have to wait for monday to heat up the iron...
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Post by rocinante on Oct 19, 2015 18:13:32 GMT -6
I'm gonna get one. Besides Colin being a pretty nice chap, his stuff is top of the line and sounds exceptional when finished. His kits are super ez. Almost too easy honestly. But best of all everything ive used was totally comparable to the originals.
I like building stuff and the way he has everything laid out sure makes it look factory made; so best of both worlds for people like me. Colin also ships stuff fast which is nice. Oh and its got Carnhills. What's not to like.
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 20, 2015 8:38:42 GMT -6
All of Colin's stuff is EZ? I don't think people who attempted the AML Ez F760 would agree...
Colins stuff is well documented for build, if u can buy a 100% complete kit, go for it, I'm a bit pissed that I wasted $800 on the EZ F760 and can't seem to source a number of parts,....ok, I'm really pissed! The support thread is also shit on GDIY IMO, I've emailed and borderline begged for info to no avail, and I'm not exactly a noob, atrocious support imv.
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Post by rocinante on Oct 20, 2015 11:00:52 GMT -6
All of Colin's stuff is EZ? I don't think people who attempted the AML Ez F760 would agree... Colins stuff is well documented for build, if u can buy a 100% complete kit, go for it, I'm a bit pissed that I wasted $800 on the EZ F760 and can't seem to source a number of parts,....ok, I'm really pissed! The support thread is also shit on GDIY IMO, I've emailed and borderline begged for info to no avail, and I'm not exactly a noob, atrocious support imv. Touche Okay yeah i guess minus the f760. I am sorry to read that and personally have been through that before. As a matter of fact i had debated building one but when i saw the state of the thread, followed by a trusted friends opinion on it i looked elsewhere. Matter of fact their thoughts were that there was "a ton of other far easier to build compressors out there that sound and act nearly the same and cost a lot less in parts." Ive built a few horribly documented, using rare and expensive components, with next to no help and it sucks. I actually still have something on my bench/shelf that i put way too much into. Every so often i go on a research rampage and try to get somewhere. Damn thing just sits there, looking at me with its two vu meters. Smiling at my incompetence with its $35 a pop rotary switches. So compared to them the ez1073 was a dream. I should've been more specific. |
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Oct 20, 2015 14:40:54 GMT -6
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A bit unflexible with few attack/release time options. After some investigation I took a chance and bought the 10DCs without demoing. And luckily enough I found them to be wowser units, and also have all the attack/release time options. To me they excel at close BD and snare and acoustic. On drum bus (in my case parallel) I vastly prefer the Zener though.
